THR Wonkyhipoy Recovery<<

Hi all,

Time for another update. So yesterday was my first full day on a cane after a lot of time out the day before. First and foremost, a word about my good friend Advil. Oh how I have missed you. I am so entranced by you that I feel like I should write you a Haiku. In fact, let's do that:

Oh my dear Advil
How you take away the pain
Yet my stomach swirls

Okay, seriously though, a single Advil yesterday took me to almost no pain, even while moving. I only took the one, and really only so that I did not need the Tramadol, and it lasted until about 4:00. Unfortunately, I probably pushed my hip a bit more than I should have after a big day out the day before, so come 6:00 PM, the swelling started putting pressure on the nerves again. Even with Tylenol and Tramadol, it took a couple of hours to settle down. Spent a lot of time icing my hip area... boy I miss my Cold Rush Ice Therapy machine. Sadly it sprung a leak about a year ago in the main hose of the unit... the one that cannot be replaced. But it works much better than ice packs.

Anyway, today is a complete rest day for me. I intend on doing the PT exercises (there are 4 in total), but aside from that it will be ice, elevate and rest. I thought I would share a couple of "I didn't expect that" thoughts I had for anyone who might come across my recovery thread before they have a THR.

About Bruising
I knew from pictures I saw on the internet before my THR that bruising down the leg was expected... and the OS told me as much when I had a follow up the other day. What he revealed about the bruising though caught me by surprise. He said the bruising down the leg is secondary bruising, and not from direct trauma (meaning a blow to the area that is bruised). I had thought this bruising was because of the way they clam you leg or something... meaning caused by the clamp, or traction, or whatever. However, it turns out that this is from internal bleeding of the soft tissue. Essentially, the blood leaks out of the wound into the surrounding tissue. From there, gravity takes over and pulls it downward. Very interesting. What really caught me by surprise however was the fact that even though a bruise may result from the process above and not direct trauma, it will still hurt... a lot. I DID NOT EXPECT THAT. He encouraged me to ice the bruising too, in addition to the swelling of my hip. The bruising is down to behind the knee by the way.

About the Bathroom
Specifically going number 2. If you are at all squeamish, or easily grossed out, I suggest you move past this one. However, I wish someone had told me what I am about to write here before I had my surgery... so I could have better prepared my self for the ordeal. Okay, so assuming you are still with me, and constipation is not an issue for you, here is what you are in for... particularly is you are a taller individual with a little extra (5-10 lbs) weight on you, like myself. So, normally when you sit down to go number 2, you are slightly leaning forward, almost in a squat. As a result, you two cheeks nicely separate, allowing your business to pass by with limited (if any contact). However, when you use that medieval contraption known as a raised toilet seat, this separation does not really happen. Furthermore, you are explicitly told to lean back, rather than lean forward... further reducing this separation and actually causing your cheeks to press together. Now add the THR swelling into the mix, and what you have on you backside is similar to a 3 year old's play-dough machine with the pancake attachment on. Gross. But wait! There's more! If you happen to be a bit of a hairy fella like myself, things start to get really interesting, as hair often grows on the insides of your cheeks and engages in a "let's see who wins" contest with your business. If your lucky, the hair looses this tug of war... if your not, and the hairs wins.. well sir, what you have is one fine mess. Oh, and let's not for get all that extra fiber (and potentially stool softeners you have been taking), further adding to both the volume of your business, and the mess. And then there is the having to stand to start the cleaning process because you are forbidden from leaning forward an reaching around back. I expected many things with this surgery and its recovery... I DID NOT EXPECT THIS!

Okay, so what have I learned that can help anyone about to go through this. First, leave your embarrassment at the door... if a THR is anything, it is an exercise in learning humility. Second, take pants and underwear completely off before you sit... trust me, it make the whole process easier. Third, if you have a walker, even if you are not using it, position it in front of the toilet so that you can use it during the cleaning process. Not only is it more stable than a cane, in can make the cleaning process less exhausting. Four, expect it two take 2 to three times as long to finish as it did before your surgery, just to feel clean... and make sure there is lots... and I do mean LOTS, of toilet paper kicking around... running out mid clean is not an option here. Five, take the toilet paper off the roll before you begin and place it higher up (you will save your back some anger by doing this). And lastly, baby wipes (moist toilette wipes) are going to be your best friend. Get them, stock them, use them with gleeful joy.. just don't flush them. As any parent will tell you, you only have to do that once, and then you learn. They do not break down in a toilet like toilet paper. If one goes down and gets stuck, there is only one way it comes out... the way it came in. Not a fun task my friends. Come to think of it, have some surgical gloves handy for the whole cleaning process :-)

Okay, so that was a lot on going number 2, but I really wish I had known all this on the first day home. So I give it to all of you. Take it for what it is worth.

Overdoing It
@Layla has repeatedly cautioned this in every post I have read since joining this forum... and now I understand why. It is because in spite of ourselves, we WILL overdo it. Her warnings (which are tattooed on the surface of my brain now) help to remind us, and listen to our body's. So heed her message. We will still overdo it of course... it is inevitable... we can't help ourselves, which I DID NOT EXPECT... but at least if we keep reminding ourselves not to, it will happen far less.

Okay, that is a really long post. Clearly I have been cooped up for too long :-). I will stop here. Will post another update soon.

Cheers
 
Well, the day of rest seemed to payoff. Only to one Tramadol with Tylenol (8:00 pm) then slept through my next two doses (midnight and 4:00 am). As a result, I am changing my med timing. I need to take two baby Aspirin at noon every day, so it is a bit complicated... but trying to get to a six hour schedule in the evening.

Anyway, I think I may have “over rested” a bit. I am really stiff this morning. So today will be more movement for sure. Plan on doing a walk down to the mailbox (normally a five minute walk... will likely take me 15 minutes lol).

A question for everyone... what do all of you do to gently limber up you joint before a walk? Would like to know what works for everyone.

Cheers
 
Hi, glad to hear you're feeling better.

Here is the Activity Progression for THR from the Recovery Guidelines to use as a rough gauge.
I found it helpful especially early into recovery as you are.
https://bonesmart.org/forum/threads/activity-progression-for-thrs.13187/

I didn't do anything to limber up that I recall. Most likely just stood for a few secs, at best, before I took off.
Enjoy your day and a great week to you!
@wonkyhipoy
 
Hi all, Just wanted to do a quick post about pain.

I have read through a number of posts where the posters indicated that the post op pain was not really described well by their OS. While my OS never down played the post op pain, I watched literally 100 you tube video from various institutions where most OSs indicated the pain was "not that bad". That seemed really strange to me after my own op, so yesterday I went back and re-watched a number of those videos.

In almost all of them, the comment around pain was preceded by the following "summarized" statement: "most patients are so relieved from no longer feeling the terrible arthritis pain, that the pain from surgery is not that bad". I found this very interesting.

In my case, my pain before surgery was not excruciating. In spite of having severe osteoarthritis in my left hip, pain was only brought badly when moving. I elected to have the procedure done mainly because my ROM was degrading at a very rapid rate (negative 15 degree hip extension, negative 10 degree internal rotation, 0 external rotation, 30 degree hip flexion). As a result, the "relief" of severe arthritis pain never really happened after surgery because as long as I didn't move, I did not have much pain before surgery.

After of course, there was pain just breathing :). Anyway, that's my take on the whole pain thing. I am curious how many people felt immense pain relief right after surgery, versus those who were more like me.

Also, I have a question for @Josephine. My incision looks really good for 10 days post op. The surgeon even commented on how good it was looking a few days ago when I saw him. There has been no drainage of any kind since day 2.

Here is the weird thing... I took a picture of my incision today and zoomed in. The dried blood around the staples appears black and green. Is that normal? The blood is 9 days old (or thereabouts). I did an internet search and got everything from "it is part of the normal healing process", to "you have gangrene"... lol... oh trusty internet... how you constantly fail me (yes, I know, the internet is not to be trusted :) )

It could be the light of the camera, or maybe a chemical reaction with the steel of the staples, Anyway, I am just wondering if this is cause for concern?

Cheers

[Bonesmart.org] Wonkyhipoy Recovery<<
 
I’m a week pre-op....I too don’t have excruciating pain. I went to the surgeon to have my other hip looked at, mentioned my knee because it had beeen giving me some pain going up & down stairs and on inline. Xray showed bone on bone, original surgeon said “horrible knee”; new surgeon said “how are you walking around on such a terrible knee”? I could have had shots but didnn’t bother. Yes, they could have helped but I’d still need a replacement.

This makes me wonder if not-so-much pre op pain will bring me lotsa pain next week or the opposite? Does it really matter? Probably not.
 
I am curious how many people felt immense pain relief right after surgery, versus those who were more like me.

I never really hit a point where post-op pain was anything I would describe as "bad". Uncomfortable at times but I made sure to stay on top of it with meds. Before surgery, first hip was so bad I was lucky to get a few hours of sleep each night. Post-op pain was nothing compared to it. Second one not as bad, but was getting worse. So maybe memory of how bad the first hip was set my pain meter a lot higher than it's set for some others :)
 
Everyone has a different perception of pain. Some find great relief post op - especially if they limped around for months/years pre-op. Others face significant discomfort with post op issues. The key is post op pain can be controlled.

Pain medication taken as prescribed, around the clock will allow you to increase your mobility. If your meds are not working for you please call your surgeon's office or see your family doctor. It's all about finding what works for you.
 
Hi @Jaycey,

Thanks for the comment. My pain is not bad actually, but thank you for your advise.

I was actually just curious to see if the post op pain that people feel is more or less compared to there pre op arthritis pain. More specifically, was curious if those who did not have a high level of pre op arthritis pain felt more pain post op than those who did have high levels of ore op arthritis pain.

Cheers
 
Hi @Jaycey,

.... More specifically, was curious if those who did not have a high level of pre op arthritis pain felt more pain post op than those who did have high levels of ore op arthritis pain.

Cheers
Although my hip joint was becoming very weak and I was increasingly disabled, I did not have much pain before my surgery. I occasionally took a Tylenol.

After surgery it was about the same. That is, I was weak and my body had been traumatised by the surgery itself, but there was not much pain. I took Tylenol for a while post surgery because I was supposed to, but then stopped. My lack of chronic pain both before and after the THR may have had something to do with dead nerves in that area of my body due to a bout of shingles last year that wreaked its vengeance on my right lower abdomen.
Or is it because we are all wired so very differently in our nervous systems and experience of pain? My sister for example cannot stand the pain of having her teeth cleaned; she has to have the area frozen. So she has one side cleaned, and then has to go in for a second appointment for the other side, as the dentist doesn't want to freeze her entire mouth at once. For me, teeth cleaning is nothing, no pain.
 
Hi all,

Time for another update. Well it has been a pretty good couple of days. Day 12 for those of you keeping score. Pain levels are diminishing slowly, and appear to only be aggravated. Just taking Tylenol for the pain (have been for a few days), and oddly not needing it in the middle of the night (supposed to take it at 8:00 AM, 2:00 PM, 8:00 PM and 2:00 AM). While my mobility is improving daily, I am quite surprised at how quickly the muscles adjacent to the incision get tired and sore. I use a cane mostly, but find that the crutch gives me greater stability if I am trying to walk further.

Also, most of the bruising down the side and back of the leg is subsiding, which is great. However, I am surprised that it is still so tender. Trying to give those areas a little ice love too. Will have to see how it goes.

We had some family over for a birthday last night, which was absolutely exhausting. I mean, family is normally exhausting, but when you are in pain (even just a little), your patients levels are not what they are normally. I am finding myself quite happy to have the house to myself during the day today. So for me, today is a rest day (with a little walk outside if I can manage it).

That's all for now.

Cheers
 
Hi @wonkyhipoy, I read with interest your thoughts and questions about pain after surgery, particularly for people who don't experience agonizing pain before surgery.

I'm probably in your category in that my pain is not excruciating as long as I limit my movement and don't exercise. My surgery is three weeks away, on September 12th ... and I have been trying to think about and anticipate the pain I'll feel after surgery ... And you raise some great points, extremely helpful points.

I'm expecting the pain to be worse ... or at least the soreness and definitely the stiffness and "heaviness"... after surgery than it is right now. So like you, I don't expect to feel the immediate relief after surgery of no arthritic pain.

But as others have noted, pain is tricky. And it is possible that I may be in more pain than I think I am ... because I have gotten so used to it ... I ALWAYS have tightness in my groin area ... and after any kind of real movement, the pain radiates down the thigh ... and the thigh can feel unstable ... I was walking downtown today and I'm very conscious of my steps and my left him ... but I don't really pay a lot of attention to this chronic pain and stiffness.

I figure surgeons are usually people who have not been operated on ... and they want to focus on the long-term benefits of the surgery. Frankly, I wonder if the best people to predict and describe the pain afterwards would be the anesthesiologists, not the surgeons. The anesthesiologists are more the pain experts ... Just a thought.

But thanks for your post ... because you helped me identify a thought that though I vaguely had ... I hadn't precisely articulated or found words for ... until I read your post. I figure it will take time, in fact, for the new hip to catch up to where my natural hip is right now ... And over time, of course, I'm hoping the new hip will be a lot more stable and comfortable than my current one.
 
You're doing well. I found company exhausting also in the early days of recovery.
It's nice and then all of a sudden, it's not, lol.
Don't be surprised by the tenderness you're feeling. Your poor leg was traumatized. Just keep the ice close.
Use it wherever it hurts.
Hope your night is peaceful!
@wonkyhipoy
 
Hi @Going4fun

I am glad to hear you found my post helpful. Another thing that surprised me is how much the bruises that go down the leg and behind the knee would both hurt and make it difficult to move. It is hard to describe. I have also been surprise at how fast the recovery happens in the first two weeks. It's like every couple of days your body says "okay, time to get to the next level". One thing I would recommend if you are a hairy fella like me... trim any hair in the back side area (see my notes about the bathroom).

@Layla, yes, I couldn't agree more... it's nice.. until suddenly it isn't. It's funny, when you are recovering from something significant like this, you go from calm to ballistic in no time flat. There is no slow building of pressure... you just hit a wall at some point, and then your done. LOL... thank goodness my little one is in day care during the day... I would hate to blow my top on her for no reason. Yesterday I had a minor fit when I dropped a cloth on the floor. I could easily bend down and get it (golfer's reach), but it didn't matter... I felt like having a little fit, so I did :-). Who knew self control was a victim of surgery :-)

Okay, time for a very small update. Today marked another milestone for me. it is bathroom related (so, if this bothers you, stop reading here). I was able to clean myself sitting down today as opposed to standing. I am not sure why, but this elated me. Small victories I suppose :-). I rested yesterday and feel pretty good (though amazingly stiff in the knee and quad when I first get up). Today is a movement day. I intend to push things a little further (in terms of my walk, and PT... meaning I will do the PT exercises more than twice today). Of course, I will stop is anything hurts. That's all for now.

Cheers
 
I love that! Self Control a victim of surgery :heehee: Sure seems like it at times, lol.
Have a great day!
@wonkyhipoy
 
I think you are doing great for not even a month out. I think women boo-hoo and men snap! Maybe they snap so they dont boo-hoo, anyway...one plus for being a woman.
Hey, its frustrating and even more so for independent sorts who aren't used to having physical constraints...:heehee: I say that as I remember not being able to reach my shoes pre-op finally, or put my leg over my ATV.

Early days, and will all be worth it in the end. Hang in there @wonkyhipoy !

Yay for the new sitting hygiene regimen...very strange "firsts" we celebrate on this forum.
:heehee:
 
Hi!
I am responding to your inquiry on pain prior & post surgery. Before surgery I didn't have much pain unless I was walking more than 5 minutes except after a weekend of pulling weeds & doing yard work. The week following that activity resulted in sharp pains starting in the groin and going down my leg to the knee or ankle at no particular time, just would happen suddenly. This is what lead me to replace the hip. I wanted to be able to walk more that a few minutes without pain & do activities like yard work, biking, skating & skiing. After surgery there was a ton of pain from swelling, stiffness & what I call growing pains ( slight burning at incision site, crackling feeling of bone growth, & popping, which has only happened once). I feel like a bowl of Rice Krispies - Snap, Crackle, Pop! Key in first few weeks is to stay ahead of the pain. Once I was 15 min. overdue for the Tylenol, got into bed, maybe twisted my leg getting in & felt an excruciating pain in the back of my hip which only ice helped until the meds kicked in.
I didn't really prepare well for post op. pain. I was avoiding research because I didn't want to psych myself out and not go thru with it. I decided to have faith instead that I was doing the best thing and would learn what I needed when it was necessary.

It sounds like you're recovering just fine. I too would snap rather than cry when I get too frustrated & overwhelmed. As the hip heals & muscles get stronger I'm able to be more self sufficient, so much less frustrated & less likely to explode.
Thanks for sharing all the little details I'm sure someone will find them helpful.
 
Thought your toilet comments very apt. I am obsessive about cleaning and, of one is overweight it does take time. One month in and everything is so much easier.

Re pain
Pre op if I drove over a pothole - and we have a lot - it would send really bad pain shooting down from hip to knee. I was on holiday 3 weeks before the op with 90 steps down to the beach. I did these once or twice a day and was rewarded by stabbing pains at night that kept me Awake. Before the op I was averaging 3-4 hours of sleep a night.

Post op I had the worse two days of my life. The pain was awful. I iced from day 1 but it was the early enhanced recovery programme that really hurt. I subsequently found out that I was badly under medicated.

Once this was sorted I improved rapidly and sailed through the next set of physio. By the time I was discharged to a recovery home and took my pain meds in time I had very little pain. I have continued with walking and physio exercises that are sensible and don’t push me too far. So, once the pain meds we’re sorted the recovery has been slow and steady and I have been very lucky in the number of friends and neighbours happy to take me out. Walking out and about in different terrains has really helped. When I get tired I go straight to bed and ice ice ice.

Glad your recovery is on track. !
 
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the comments. Very interesting insight. I find it very interesting how everyone recovers differently... not just a different rates, but different aches :-).

Speaking of aches, yesterday was an interesting day. It was a "movement day" for me, meaning I tried to walk a lot... well, a lot for just having the top of my femur cut of :-P. Anyway, a couple of things, and a question. First, the morning went swimmingly... two walks down to the end of the street (about 5 minutes each walk), and of course a lot of putting around the house. The afternoon/evening however was not so great... not bad, just not great. I decided I needed to get out of the house, so after dinner my wife and I went to the grocery store to grab a few things. This is where the rails fell off so to speak. I tried using a shopping cart instead of the cane, but for some reason had very little strength in my op leg... or at least in certain muscles. So switched to the cane, but this only helped a little. I started limping quite badly (partially because my op leg was tired and it hurt at certain point in the ROM), and partially because my arms was tired from using the cane so much that day... and I suck at using a cane. Long story short, this adventure, which only lasted 20 minutes by the way, was a bit of a mistake. I should have brought two crutches just to be same. Lesson learned.

Anyway, when I got home a started asking my self "why am I feeling pain in the places I am feeling it when I walk". The pain isn't directly in the hip or anything, but from all the muscles around the hip... especially the muscles that were "retracted" away from the incision. I got that fact that they would hurt with certain movements... but with just walking?... that seemed odd as they are not used all that much... or so I thought. I then stumbled on this wonderful You Tube video which showed which muscles were loaded and when during each stride. Okay, so now it all makes sense... every muscles is used when we walk, bit no only that, certain muscles fire when you might think they are resting... especially the muscles that run along the outside of your hip. Check out the video if you are curious:

Tremendously informative!

Anyway, time for my question to my fellow hippys. Following the recovery guidelines, it is suggested that on week three you start planning walks of 20-30 minutes. Well I am officially in week three as of today, and I do not see how this is possible. Walking for 30 minutes straight (like a long walk around the block) would simply kill me... just going down to the end of the street was exhausting for my hip muscles. Then it dawned on me... perhaps the walk is not supposed to be sustained... but done in short bursts with lots of rest. Or perhaps I should be using two crutches. Or perhaps I completely misunderstand :-). So, anyone who could provide a bit more detail on the guidance and how they followed it would be hugely appreciated.

That's all for now... I am off to have my staples removed by my GP.

Cheers.
 

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