Thanks Anne it's good to talk about it,I have tried to talk to them in the past not about the grandchildren but just to be in the same room!Jo was willing to give it a try but Sarah was not interested and put the phone down on her,so unfortunately it made it worse.Jo is happy for her boys to play with Jack but it's Sarah that's stopping it. Will try talking to her but not holding my breath.Thanks so much for caring,I know we all have family issues at times,sadly this one is long term.Love Terri