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Giraffe44, I love your silhouette! Thanks for reminding me that over time the highs will be higher or more frequent and the lows less frequent. I am trying to hope for that. So many unknowns on this road! How are you doing?


Thanks, Peaches. It's the American actor Robert Taylor. I'm doing very well. Every day I am so thankful that I can get out of a chair without pain, that I can pick something off the floor without trouble (but being careful), that I can walk for hours without pain. There is still a hitch in my get along but that's so minor compared with just not being in pain!!!
 
, I thought I was just posting the URL. I didn't realize the actual video would be there.
haha Peaches that happened to me too a couple months ago and I was mortified, thought I'd be kicked off, just like you. :)
I really appreciate your (and everybody else's who does it) frank updates. I think that chronic pain dims everything. I do hate to be a Pollyanna, but I think that there is improvement down the road for you. (If I don't think it's there for you, how can I believe it's there for me, yes? :) ) Since we pretty much all agree that being forced back to work at 6 weeks is the height of idiocy, all we can do about that is pray that your employer gets smart sometime. But for 5 weeks, you are doing well, according to what I've read on other people's posts! You may have issues more than just the hip, but the hip will improve, I believe.
We're here for you, every cyber-minute of the day:friends:
I wouldn't worry too much about that 82-year-old who trots about as though she's 55. You and she do not share a gene pool, right? Be glad for her, and if she has any sense at all, she will be glad for every step you make forward, and sympathetic for every not-forward thing that may happen. I also wouldn't concern myself overly with the added leg length. Must have been a routine thing in the surgeons' eyes. But certainly bring it up to him!
My PT coming any minute-- see you later! chris :)
 
Peaches I think your update shows progress, not leaps and bounds, but moving forward none the less. The knee and back pain seems to be the main things that are discouraging you. I understand, and hope the OS and the new PT can address some of that. I wonder if you can take an anti-inflammatory to help with that? And like LeeApril26 said, a lift may help, and the PT or OS can better address that than I can.
I had tremendous lower leg pain and back pain after I was diagnosed with hip OA, and my PT saw that my gait was off, I was walking on the outsides of my feet, and sort of bow-legged, and he put lifts in and that, with core strengthening exercises cured my back and legs. I was out of whack from the OA. So, keep telling yourself that it will get better. You're just in the beginning of this whole process, really. There's plenty of time for improvement.
I think it's ok to write about the 'pits' part of recovery, too! Then we all can support each other, and stay realistic about this whole, long process of healing.

We're here for you, every cyber-minute of the day
That's true! We're all here for each other. :console2:
 
Hi Peaches,
Your update report is an honest and realistic evaluation of where you are and I can really feel your frustration. Walking without the cane is a real feat I think. I can't do that yet and I am at week 7. Can move around a room but with a real lurch it feels to me and my keg feels leaden! Oh dear. Like you I think I expected quicker progress and it us really hard to keep positive. I wake every morning hoping for a miracle I think. Only to find I'm stiff as usual.
My oain is good. Except for a nagging ache that sometimes wakes me in the night and doesn't recede unless I take half an endone. Also soreness after the exercises but I immediately use the heat pad which the physio has recommended instead of ice at this stage. I also use the heat pad during the stretches and it does seem to warm up the muscles.
I now have my heart set on the sort of improvement my physio seems to think is possible after 6 weeks of his program so I will do it diligently.
We are so lucky here to be completely covered for effective rehab. All my costs were covered for the 12 days in rehab stay and the month of twice weekly yo follow. Now however my physio is covered by the Extras component of the private insurance. Each session costs $70 and I get $32 back to a limit of $800 in a calendar year. Monthly premiums are $270 (covers both of us or if there are kids, a family).
Hang in there! Hope work is OK. I'm very nervous to try catching a bus. The way our drivers urch and brake...very scary!
 
Peaches just to let you know how Ive got on sitting on the loo without the raise, as i know that was one of your big concerns when you go back to work. Getting down onto it is fine - it isnt a problem at all - its the getting off thats the problem. You need something to push down on or pull yourself up with. Could you get a suction grab handle to take into work with you to pull up on ? . It will be a lot easier than trying to hover - Or ask your boss to provide one- I dont know what the law is in the US, but in the UK, your employer is required to provide workplace adaptions within reason if an employee needs them .
 
Hi@Peaches - wow, indeed, as LeeApril26 and Maeve said, I agree that you are walking a lot! I might walk around inside my house without the cane a little, like back and forth in the kitchen, but not nearly as much as you!
Personally, I would take some of the heavy meds to deal with the back pain. Change that statement: I AM taking one of those pills when my back spasms! I've developed my own "protocol" for my issue: a pill and 15 minutes in my most comfortable recliner really does help me. The whole pain/chemical stress response/which delays healing cycle, as posted in the BS library, has helped me to deal with pain, even pain completely unrelated to my hips, sine I first read that article here 3 years ago.
I also feel that using the cane more at this juncture helps me takes some pressure off my back. I'm sure you've experimented and know what works (or not) for you, and I certainly do not belittle your back pain in any way, I'm just sharing, because reading others' experiences have helped me so much!
I sure hope you don't have actual back issues in addition; and I hope your OS can give you some answers at your next visit!!
Elosarabrab, lol! "Ceremonial burning!" I'm not quite ready to give mine up. When I do, one goes back to its owner (it's borrowed) and the other into a box in the basement for "just in case." I acquired that one when someone donated it, along with some other "aids," to our congregation for a yard sale. (I have one downstairs and one up, which has been so helpful.)
 
Songlady, Peaches, @ Maeve. I think I read the same article last night at 1 a.m. when I couldn't sleep from pain. I got up and took a second pain pill. I am usually down to one a day before exercising. My surgeon doesn't want patients taking more than one a day after week three. Today it seems better.

I am wondering how difficult it is to resume sitting on low seats, couches and toilets once the restrictions are lifted. I have a vision of being stuck in a restroom somewhere.
 
Hi, Maeve: Don't compare your walking with mine. After all, I am living like a hot-house plant ... have not been on a bus, subway, cab, or car in six weeks. Have not been doing hours of physio as you guys call it (I love saying physio more than "PT," which is so boring) like you have. My surgery I suspect was a lot more routine than yours. You know what I"m saying: can't compare our journeys. The one thing I *can* do and am thrilled to do is walk my apt. bldg. corridors. My apt. is too small to have the walking space for practicing walking, so it's the bldg. corridors, which are carpeted and nice and big enough for a nice walk back and forth, all day. Josephine's activity article does mention walking as part of PT, so since that's the one thing I can do, I do that. I also do very very basic PT exercises the hospital gave me. You and others here have progressed beyond these, I am sure. So I expend my energy getting strength from walking. I also must be strong enough to walk at work in a week. I will take a cane, though. And I still must use a cane outside. I'm glad to hear much of your physio was paid for. The coppayments for us all is a nightmare. For anyone who has the means and resources to get to and from physio and find it is beneficial, that's terrific. I don't think it's feasible or even necessarily works for everyone.

I actually have not been very impatient with my progress, but I have had the work deadline to work toward, as I have mentioned in nauseating detail earlier and elsewhere, so I have no choice but to want to speed things up. I am a turtle, very type B--but livin' in a type A world full of hares! So I am pushed to 'speed it up' for their expectations (work people). It tis what it tis. I know from what others have posted that even the nicest coworkers can tend to think that because we've returned to work, we are "all better" and for them, work life has been moving onward and they are not going to be thinking about me and my limitations the way I am. I am freakout out about the chronic lower back pain because I don't want a repeat of pre-op pain at the office where I am standing in someone's office or in a corridor, talking, and all I can think about is my screaming pain. I can't even run errands or meet friends for anything that involves standing where I don't get to sit, because of the back pain. So that's my reason for having been blue and down. I am today feeling more hopeful that it will resolve itself. No reason to think that other than merely wanting to.

Thanks to you and everyone here who has been supportive. Please know that I do not for one nanosecond think that my particular trials and tribulations are worse than anyone else's, and I know that I have not had to endure things that others have. I do count my blessings; but simultaneously worry about pre-op pain and limitations. I wanted to be in the "the pain is gone and I have a new life and can't you see it on my face" camp by the time I return to work, and am sorry it's not the case. But I will work on myself toward accepting that and finding the inner grace to behave nicely rather than like a cranky old broad :)

Thank you to TeeEm for those Toilet Tips! Yes, the "handicapped stall" at my office's loo does have one grab bar, on the right-hand wall; a diagonal one. My PT said just what you said: that getting up will be the big hurdle. She thinks I'll have to grab hold of that bar and have my cane in my left hand. Every day I am going to take that plastic stinky toilet thing off my toilet at home and give a very careful trial run just to see what I can do. So far my right knee gets a sharp pain when I try to get up, and that scare me.

Any thoughts about getting rid of the plastic toilet thing once we are done with it? I have no room for it in my bathroom or apartment. I tossed out the box it came in, too, as I didn't want PORTABLE TOILET SET RISER WITH HANDLES in a big box for all visitors to see. Noplace to hide that box. I thought that charitable organizations did NOT take bathroom stuff like this as donations, but I could be wrong. Maybe we should start a crafts thread where we come up with ideas for disguising/decorating those toilet things to blend in with our decor ... maybe some type of camouflage paint.

Songlady: I'm so glad to hear you have figured out a routine/protocol for dealing with your back spasms. I know you are not minimizing mine, so no worries! You use the word "spasm," which sounds more drastic than mine. My pain is just a constant one when I walk--whether with the cane (which I need when I walk outside) or whether without the ane (when I walk inside on those corridors). I would guess that the pain is worse when I am walking outside for a few blocks and when I am standing as in standing in line somewhere.

I am heating the area a lot; taking tylenol. Afraid to fire up the heavy artillery pain meds (which for me was Norco) again after having been off them for more than a week, though I appreciate your advice about this. But the Norco leaves me lighthead-ish after a few days building up in my system, and I can't afford to be anything but crystal clear once work begins (in a week). I will ask the OS at checkup time about it. I had to postpone some socializing stuff with friends because it would have involved standing and I knew i wouldn't be able to alleviate the pain. And had to exit stores where I wanted to run errands because it involved standing and waiting for 20 minutes and I coudln't stand it. See, THIS is the pre-op pain I wanted the surgery to fix. I can't strap on a heating pad in a store (hey--that's something else we should invent: the portable heating pad; maybe bring back the 1980s fanny pack as a fashion statement and then hide within it some type of heating pad for when we are out and about and away from an electrical outlet).

Am trying today to not be weepy and without hope. But it's hard. I can at least still practice walking and when I live in my controlled environment for the time being, it's not too bad.

ByGosh, I am so glad your back and gait issues got solved with the help of your doc and PT! Yes, the pre-op gait thing being so off and damaging is quite real. Thanks to you on bonesmart i ordered new shoes! Baby needs a new pair of shoes! Ugly old sneakers just like my pre-op years, but they worked the best for me then, so now they are feeling the best for me now. It will be a long time before I am sporting sandals--which with my ugly Howard Hughes toenails (thanks to @LeeAnn for that analogy), is a good thing. No flats or cute shoes for a long time, but that's okay.

I will ask my OS about a cocktail such as the bonesmart one and see what he says.

Hi to zauberflöte: Hope your recovery is going better. You are still new to all of this! Please do not hang your hope on mine or anyone else's. They aren't the same. I can be without hope about my back pain and knee pain, but that has no bearing on whether you should be hopeful about your recovery. We are all so different sounds trite but it is the greatest truth here. And the nasty truth that no one, even I, wants to say is this: Some of us--hopefully in the minority, and I do believe it's the minority--don't have reason to have hope their lives will have improved drastically. You read about it. For a lot of reasons--and not necessarily the surgeon's fault--stuff happens or has happened already and people don't have the glowing "my pain is gone, my life is all better, everything is roses."

As for my pal, trust me: She does not trot around. In fact, that's why I look up to her. She is 82/3, doesn't try to be the fittest, bestest senior in school, just lives her life. Her aches and pains appear to be just par for the course for that age. I still encouraged her to check it out with her doctor, so maybe she can get some relief. But the cool thing is that her aches have not impeded her life too much. Which is wonderful. And it goes without saying I am thrilled for her, as she and her husband (the most adorable couple) are at their ages still working full time, riding the subway to and from work, and always are going to the theater and concerts, in the nosebleed sections. They aren't type a, workaholic types. Just plugging along, still able to do a good day's work and their bosses have kept them on. She told me she wiill not cry one bit when she has to retire, as she doesn't particularly love going to work. But the point is, she CAN. She is the kind of senior I hope to be at that age: not impeded; able to live a productive life.
She has been lovely about calling or coming by religiously and asking with total compassion how am I feeling (as opposed to a frantic "What is your progress???" question, like it's a race or competition I'm in) and is sad when I tell her the bad stuff, and is joyous when I tell her the good stuff. She lets me feel what I feel and never chastises me with "Count your blessings" as if I don't know to do that. THAT's a truly supportive friend, in my book. She looks great for her age, but does look like a senior and like a frail one at that. She's not one of these uber seniors with the botox and other **** done to herself to make herself look young; doesn't dress silly. Without thinking about it, she seems to just live and look like her age. But in the process gets around. A true role model for me. I adore her. I'm glad for the chance to talk her up here. Sorry for the length of this post1 But thanks toyou and all of you who have given me much support, compassion, and laughter!!!
 
Peaches. You just answered my query about getting stuck in a restroom-cane and grab bar? You're right. I think it will need practice. Lots of it, at least for me.

Once your restrictions are lifted, and with the permission of your OS, you might want to try some gentle Pilates floor (or bed) exercises for your lower back. A chiropractor suggested them several years ago when I was having trouble. She said if you build up your core, it supports the back. There are lots of instructional videos on you tube that I found very helpful. I was even taking some free classes (for over 55) provided by NYC Dept. for the Aging. I did find that it helped, but then the hip had problems and I started PT for that and didn't have the time or energy to continue Pilates.
Perhaps you've tried this-just trying to think of what you can do.
 
Thanks for this and all of your tips, LeeApril26. I appreciate them and consider them, even when I sound like I'm in a "yes, but ... " mode. I haven't ever investigated the NYC Dept. for the Aging, so I will check that out! Once those restrictions are lifted, I will feel freer to check out all the back stuff. It was my PT who suggested the cane and grab bar; I wouldn't have known. Just look out for your knee(s) as you come up off the toilet, as it can be a killer.
I am currently also investigating those "female portable urinal" things to take with me to work and practice at home beforehand. I will give a full report if I try any of them out. They sound a little too challenging for a major klutz like me, but you never know. I think YOU are going to do very well; I mean it. You are experienced with PT and exercise, swimming and the like, and savvy about that stuff. I think your past hard work with the swimming and all will serve you well; it's just a matter of time, that's all. Have faith in yourself--you have reason to.
 
@thanks, Peaches. I think you might be over estimating my abilities. Other than slow swimming I am not at all athletic. Lost about 50 pounds six years ago but could stand to lose about the same amount. I have had lots of PT because I have bad ankles, knees, and then a hip, plus nerve damage from a fall when all of me landed on my poor right hand. (Should have known I shouldn't walk and speak on a cell phone at the same time.) I am such a klutz that my cousins still don't like to sit next to me when I pour. Nor will they let me wash, dry or carry their "good" tableware. What I am is persistent because there have been so many people in my family on walkers and in wheelchairs. That is why I started the swimming. Went to a family reunion twenty ears ago and all of the elders had horrible O.A. Very depressing.

I think all your walking is as good for your hip as the PT. I also have a small apt. But equally small hallways, so I am doing the exercises. I try to go out for a walk most days, but not too far because of the knees. I hope you find a solution for your back.

Have never heard of a female portable urinal. Will google it.
 
Peaches I'm sorry to hear that your back pain is bothering you so much. I wonder if you thought of taking 1/2 of the Norco, or even some ES Tylenol or Advil? Isn't the pain cocktail that's listed in this forum Tylenol and Advil? I think that being in pain all of the time is very discouraging. Like Songlady said, there's a good article in the BoneSmart library that explains the pain/stress response and why it's not good for us to experience pain. I think you'd feel an awful lot better, if you weren't in so much pain all of the time. I know that I get very discouraged and blue when I have pain, and I only think of the negative.
Have you tried to think of what might make it feel better, or what might be causing it? Does heat or ice help? Is there a comfy chair you can sit in? Are you over-doing the walking? Is it the same back pain you had pre-op? I don't mean to interrogate you, I'm just trying to brain storm a little bit to see if there is any way you can get out of this pain cycle.. I do hope it gets better for you! Try to keep your spirits up.
 
I am a turtle, very type B--but livin' in a type A world full of hares!
Peaches I have to tell you, the first time I saw you write "Type A-hare", thought "what a clever euphemism!" and laughed myself silly!!!!! Now you know at what level my mind resides:rotfl:
I thought that charitable organizations did NOT take bathroom stuff like this as donations, but I could be wrong.
I'll bet either GoodWill or Sallies would come pick it up. Or choose a random church in the phone book and explain the situation.
I had a thought in the middle of the night last night, and it wasn't a very ladylike, Peaches-like one. I thought, Heaven forbid that due to being pushed into coming back to work, Peaches has a fall or some other injury, and has to go out on disability, which of course the employer must pay (sure hope my scenario doesn't come true!!!!!!!!!). But it might be something you would present to your employer-- that international standards in first-world countries include 12 weeks back to work, and you sure would hate to wind up seeing him across a courtroom regarding an accident at the workplace.
And while reading about this female urinal-- which I've seen in the Rite Aid, it looks like it wold really be useful-- when we used to go camping, I used to take 3 pound glass peanut butter jar with me into the tent. Worked a charm! So today's disposable version of that would be, a large plastic drink cup? The giant beer kind. Use (standing straight, I'm thinking), dump contents in toilet, toss in trash (employer asked for it...) and wash hands! You'd only need the seat raiser for, um, well, you know LOL. Long skirts and knee-high stockings might be called for, if they are in the budget.
Sorry, I'm feeling full of myself, just took 2 percoset and hang the low BP:whistle:
 
Peaches - you wont need to get anything. you'll be able to get on and off the loo fine if you've got something to pull yourself up on. Today I got off normally without pulling myself up at all. I'm sending mine back to the OTs next week :yes!:
 
Good morning. Hope everyone had a nice Memorial Day. In the NYC area we had picture-perfect weather: low or no humidity; sunny; not too hot. Heavenly. But I hear somewhere in New York State there was a snowstorm. Not just a few flakes, either.

ByGosh: Thanks very much for your brainstorming! I don't feel interrogated at all. I appreciate your concern. I do take extra-strength Tylenol; it does not touch the lower back pain/throbbing. I try ice and heat. Sitting on my duff at home, no pain. Walking the hallways, very little pain. Walking outside and then standing in a store for a while--back pain. No clue why. Will ask the surgeon at the checkup next week and keep you posted. I don't believe I am overdoing it at all the walking, but checked Josephine's article about suggested activity level just to be sure. I think by now a fifteen-minute walk is suggested if possible. My hallway walks are only about five minutes. I do this several times a day: so maybe 20 minutes of walking, in five minute installments, scattered throughout the day. That's not too much by now (6 weeks), is it? I go outside nearly every day for a walk of a few blocks, depending on the rain. Maybe 4 blocks. Yesterday I walked 7 blocks. Came home and rested. Compared to your pain in your groins and pains others have had, I guess this is par for the course. This a.m. my knee on the operated side is acting up again, a little worse than usual, so I am icing and elevating it.

LeeApril26: You will appreciate this one: I took my first bus ride yesterday! Was planning to walk a few blocks, but the bus rolled up and I thought, "No time like the present!" And since it was the kind with the low platform, I was able to easily get on it (with my cane). I asked the bus driver if he would mind waiting till I sat down before moving, as I was a little shaky, with the Duane Reade bag holding my whoopie cushion. He did't mind, and the whole busload seemed to be watching me with bated breath as I lurched around to get a seat. Someone in the handicapped section popped up to give me her seat. Now here is the funny part: I sat down--without the cushion! Then realized OH MY GOD! I SAT DOWN ON A LOW SEAT! And lumbered up quickly and held on to the pole and then at the next stop I pulled out the cushion and perched atop it, like a queen high on her throne. Everyone stared at it. Hard not to laugh about it. But I managed to get down the step when I got off and felt really accomplished.
You must tell me what type of cushion(s) you take with you as this huge, hard whoopie cushion I have doesn't really fit well into or onto chairs.

Elosarabrab: You know, it just might be she-wee (what a great name). My friend is bringing me some samples this week, from camping trips. I'll keep everyone posted.

TeeEm: I'm worried I don't have the thigh or whatever strength to pull myself up off of low toilets. Maybe by next week I will, but as of now, it's tough. I have an extremely low toilet in my home bathroom, though. I can't even get down onto it completely, I don't think.

zauberflöte: Don't worry about me. You have your hands full! But you are sweet to help me think of back to work toilet options and i appreciate it. Many people on this forum seem to have had to bite the ol' work bullet and face the music come 6 weeks or even sooner, so I will just take each day as it comes and do my best. I don't have any more vacation or sick days, anyway. I'm thinking if I am sitting down most of the time, it won't be too bad. Someone wise here said that our progress seems to be made not in each day but by the week, so that's hopeful news.
 
Good Morning Peaches Congratulations on your successful bus ride! That was a big and brave accomplishment. I think you're making great progress. The 5 min. walks several times a day are just what's recommended for THR. Better than 1 big tiring stressful walk. I'll await word of the She Wee and even hope for a picture. My curiosity is getting the best of me with this one. I have, somewhere buried deep in my attic, an old-fashioned metal white enamel female urinal, shaped sort of like a duck, with it's beak open and a handle on it's back, no legs. Can you picture that? It fits where it's supposed to and has a long neck and the 'body' is the holding tank! It's from the hospital in the olden days. It actually works for women. Of course, if I ever needed it, there's no way I could possibly find it, or get to it if I even knew where it was up there. Too much clutter.

Glad you had a nice Memorial Day. Weather was gorgeous. My husband made it home from his h*ll trip to NYC with that brother of his. He has a terrible cold, is exhausted, and threw his back out, no doubt caused by the sleeping arrangements. I think I'll not be so cooperative next time a trip is proposed! No fun for him, and he's here trying to pick up the slack from my inability to fully function. Poor guy.
 
Peaches. As my great nieces would write: OMG! You rode the bus. That's great. (Fairly amazing that someone actually got up to give you a seat.) What an accomplishment. And, even better, you were able to get up from the low bus seat with the help of a pole, even if you did lumber. That's terrific-you can do the same on a low toilet seat. I have been accidentally doing stuff I shouldn't all week, but thankfully no low seats yet. Did unknowingly slip on underwear without the Grabber. When I realized what I's done I gasped.

I have been stuffing throw pillows, large and small, in my bag. Several. I am concerned that when I get to a chair, I won't know the size of the seat. Sometimes I build pyramids of cushions, if the chair is low, and perch myself on top, wobbling a bit. Rather awkward to carry, but I think easier to have a couple of smaller cushions on the bus. I look lovely with an IKEA bag of cushions, my cane, and my largish bag (complete with epi pens) across my chest.

re: your knee. Have you been reading the thread started by kneesrus, who is a PT working with a THR patient who has foot drop. Josephine's explanations about what happens to the knee on the operated side during surgery are very interesting. I guess if you've watched the surgery on you tube you already know this, but I haven't had the courage. My son's description of the video was enough to make me cover my ears. I hadn't though about the implications for my knee.

ByGosh. I'm glad your husband has returned, though sorry he is so sick. I think protecting him from future nights spent in a bathtub attempting to sleep is a very good idea.
 
Peaches wow oh wow the BUS!!!!!!! Good for you, seizing the moment and running with it!! And all the action after, and getting off ok (my knees hurt just thinking about getting off a bus...)-- you are da bommb!!!
ByGosh your antique "she-wee" (I LOVE that name) is just what they sell at my Rite Aid, only today's are plastic, of course...
 
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