TKR Meecies musings (questions, comments, maybe some venting here and there too)

Yes, controlling the wheelchair is great for triceps, while most arm exercises focus more on biceps!
A triceps exercise to do at home if you have a very sturdy armchair is to put your hands on the arms of the chair and use your arms to raise yourself off the seat - just a couple of inches, and holding that position a few seconds. Try to not totally relax your butt on the seat each time; rather maintain the control and engagement in the downward direction, just touching the seat of the chair.
If it transmits too much stress on your shoulders, back off and stay within what works to keep them happy!
 
where would I find information about an osteotomy?
 
@meecies. Is this what you are looking for?

 
Is this what you are looking for?
I'm not sure
I saw a podiatrist today and he mentioned an osteotomy or a TKR for the valgus deformity...
no one ever mentioned an osteotomy before so maybe it's not appropriate for me???
 
also where is the best place to get custom orthotics made?
these are going to be off loaders to take the pressure off certain parts of my feet
 
The podiatrist I saw decades ago and my current podiatrist both ordered the custom orthotics from their preferred places and had me come in to pick them up.
 
The podiatrist I saw decades ago and my current podiatrist both ordered the custom orthotics from their preferred places and had me come in to pick them up.

this podiatrist is in the office of the OS that I saw and had a very bad experience with, and also the office where the dr I wanted to switch to works- but I was told that wasn't allowed (although that is untrue, it's allowed for those who matter- ppl with better insurance)
so I wasn't expecting much.

they are all so rushed at this practice... it's a true assembly line, get em in and get em out as fast as possible, on to the next one.
They are NEVER pleasant to you, ever! this is the same for everyone, so that's got nothing to do with my insurance.
so it was a stressful appt.

I refused the foot xrays because I'd just had my feet xrayed a month ago, because I just had foot xrays and my insurance won't cover more without good cause (there is none) I told them that my PT wanted an xray of my ankle, they said that was up to the Dr- that he'd need to see me first.

saw the Dr (podiatrist) He was very rushed. I'd brought a copy of the radiology report from just a month ago, he wasn't interested. Told him about my PT wanting my right ankle cleared as being "structurally sound"- he ignored that completely.

He immediately told me that my foot problems are all caused by my valgus right knee.
I knew this was going to happen, but fortunately he was the FIRST dr to actually LOOK at my body and we briefly discussed the pelvic fracture and the SI joint issue, the leg length difference and how the OS said getting TKR would make my leg even longer, when it being too long was already an issue
He inserted a comment that what I was told wasn't true, that they COULD make the right leg shorter (and this is indeed what the OS whom I despise told me- he could shorten that leg)
so I informed the podiatrist that I was getting conflicting opinions from different OS and that one said there was no way they could shorten my right leg because then the ligaments would be too loose and I'd have serious instability... He cut me off and wanted to know where I went, and who told me that, and I told him I'd seen many diff OSs and none of them agree.

However in the course of pushing the point that any thing is not going to be very effective, he pointed out what I was trying to figure out on my own (and kind of knew, but wasn't sure of)
He (very quickly) showed me how the valgus deformity is causing the SI joint pain to move higher up, as the leg moves further in the opposite direction, he also showed me how the valgus knee is pulling on the ligaments of my right ankle and how the pressure on the great toe is increased by all these abnormal angles. I kind of knew this all along but since physics is def not my subject, I needed to hear this very clear explanation.
I really wish he hadn't been so rushed- because he's one of the few drs who was willing to give me answers to some of my most pressing questions


he said that the valgus knee could be fixed with an osteotomy or (and?) TKR

I don't know what an osteotomy is- I looked it up of course but there are SO many different kinds and different reasons for them and it appears they are not often used in people over 60 and also that the recovery from those involves a period of non weight bearing, vs TKR where you need to be wt bearing


I am so depressed/defeated and feeling really hopeless now

He did give me an PX for off loading custom inserts and the names of several places to get them. I might be able to get them free, I need to call a place today and find out.


he suggested Hoka shoes as having more cushioned springy soles.

and he gave me a "prescription" for a wheelchair but will not do the paper work that the insurance would need to get it approved

He used several diagnostic codes for this visit: bilateral foot pain and callus of foot and lower limb difference and ACQUIRED VALGUS DEFORMITY KNEE, RIGHT

It may not make a difference to the OS who have wanted to do the TKR (or the first one who did not want to do it) but this makes a huge difference to me.
we can't even have a discussion about my chances of a good outcome without the surgeon acknowledging this simple fact- I don't have primary OA of the knees.
 
HOW MANY PT VISITS ARE NORMALLY ORDERED POST SURGERY?

that's all I need to know
thanks
 
I think that varies a lot and is constrained by your insurance policy. I believe mine lists it somewhere. You should ask your insurance company what they allow after whatever surgery you are getting. Doctors can sometimes get more than that approved by making a case to the insurance company.
 
@meecies This is really difficult to answer because it depends upon your surgeon, your insurance and your own progress in recovery.

For my first recovery, the surgeon re-upped the order after six weeks based on my progress and the insurance approved the additional sessions. With my second TKR recovery, I didn't even need all the ordered sessions.

Every knee is different and every recovery is different.
 
Hi
I had one in the hospital and then 3 afterwards spread out at 2 weeks ( so 2 , 4 and 6 weeks) . I could have asked for more I suppose but had gone back to work by then and couldn’t fit them in and was fairly active anyway. I also started back swimming so I reckon that’s a good PT session!
 
@meecies As said above it depends on many factors. What I did with my BTHR and both shoulders is go see PT every 2 weeks and did the exercises they gave me diligently between visits. This was with the full agreement of the PT folks and my surgeons. That stretched out my PT benefits and worked very well for me in terms of getting ROM , strength, and functionality back to where it needed to be. Have not had a knee replacement so I can't say how my way of doing things would work for that.
 
What I did with my BTHR and both shoulders is go see PT every 2 weeks and did the exercises they gave me diligently between visits.
I did this too with my most recent therapist. He had come to trust that I would do the exercises (I showed him my exercise records) and that saved me the time of driving to PT just to do the same exercises I could do at home, and of course stretched out the benefits as you say.
 
I just had one session before my surgery and two in the hospital on day 1 and day 2 afterwards. I was given a booklet of exercises and I paid my pilates teacher for individual sessions from week 3 or 4.
I used my own judgement combined with the exercise and advice booklet on how far to walk etc. I could ring a nurse if I wanted further advice or help.
I saw my surgeon at 6 weeks.
It all seems to vary from hospital to hospital, surgeon to surgeon and country to country what rehab regime is used.
 
@meecies I pulled up a forum search for osteotomy and valgus for you here.

A lot of online research and threads here discuss osteotomy vs partial knee replacement in young people with osteoarthritis, so I purposely added valgus to the search.

If you're concerned about short term dependency and mobility issues post op, it might not be a surgery for you.
 
I had 2/week at home for two weeks and then started outpatient. While my insurance will pay for as many as needed, the pt told me on my last knee, they generally schedule 2/week for 4-6 weeks….as needed, they can add more or use less depending on patient and progress. I saw my outpatient pt 4 times and then was released.
 
If you're concerned about short term dependency and mobility issues post op, it might not be a surgery for you.
it was never offered to me
I asked about a partial because I've got arthritis in only the lateral compartment in the right and medial in the left
but was told the only option was a TKR

The podiatrist does foot and ankle surgery....so I don't know how much he knows about knees

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I don't want any surgery
I feel backed into a corner with no way out: chronic pain for the rest of my life
or a surgery that may or may not make things any better and has a higher than normal potential to lead to more and more surgery, and serious and frankly terrifying potential consequences -
a surgery that can never be "un done"- once they take my natural knee, there is no going back

doesn't really matter as right now I have neither the financial or social resources/supports available to make any of this even possible

oy I am so tired of this whole thing
 
I am one of those that did not take formal PT, even though my OS gave me a prescription for it. I had many previous surgeries and each knee and knew what to do. Being divorced, I recovered alone most of the time, so I had lots of 'natural' PT. Recovery went well for me and my bend improved for years. I now have over 130 bend without any formal PT!

For those of you that feel PT is needed in your situation, we suggest that you never let the therapist hurt you or touch your leg to force a bend or straightening. That is counterproductive and just causes more swelling with a worsening ROM because of that.
 
the podiatrist's notes were finally posted

he writes that the problem is a severe valgus knee

severe? is he qualified to say that without any xrays, just from looking at it?

I was just denied access to a physiatrist, they are claiming they need records from a rheumatologist that I don't have (I requested one but later realized it wasn't needed, because I don't have any auto immune disorders, the foot surgeon just didn't want to be bothered with me so he suggested that perhaps I had an "auto immune process" going on- screening bloodwork ruled that out)

I am so done
so so done
 
severe? is he qualified to say that without any xrays, just from looking at it?
I don't think you need X rays to see a valgus knee.
It is obvious just by looking. I was always knock-kneed from childhood. I remember being taken out of school as a child to have physiotherapy. I had to pick up marbles with my toes and walk on the outside of my feet.
As my knee got more swollen ( Baker's cyst/ pes anserine bursa/supra patellar bursa) I hadn't realised that the lateral arthritis was collapsing that side of my knee and I was getting more twisted.
One day I was in a shop lift with full length mirrors. I was horrified to realise I was at least twenty degrees valgus on that side. That, together with the multiple abnormalities on the MRI and my severe hip and back pain convinced me that any surgical risks were worth it in my case.
 

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