intense pain at night time when resting leg

[healthgal46]

I hear getting deep tissue massages every so often does help. but I want to know is why do everybody seem to be having it band or periformis issues after hip replacement what is causing that?

 

[healthgal46]

Pain unbearable today on IT band n thigh after my general pt exercises, been foam rolling, stretching now going to use heat but running out of tolerance n things to relieve pain. So sad and depresses

 

[zauberflöte]

What does the pain do if you take a day completely off, no exercise or foam roll or nuttin' ?
I have had what I now know is a piriformis issue for at least 20 years. Wish you could have seen me trying to make a soft yet supportive upright chair for onstage!! The thr did not improve it much, unfortunately.


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[webbie73]

I hear getting deep tissue massages every so often does help. but I want to know is why do everybody seem to be having it band or periformis issues after hip replacement what is causing that?

Pain unbearable today on IT band n thigh after my general pt exercises, been foam rolling, stretching now going to use heat but running out of tolerance n things to relieve pain. So sad and depresses

My own opinion, the reason why IT and piriformis problems arise from a hip surgery is because hip surgery is a major surgery. It traumatizes your muscles and the IT band during surgery(whether they are cut or just moved). Hip surgery is a physically rough surgery.

Rule of thumb from my PT, if it hurts you don't do it. Of course there is a difference between stiff and minor discomfort. If it HURTS back off. If it makes you hurt more back off. Also, you are not giving your body time to heal. I understand from what you said that you are using the foam roller everyday. So where is the healing period? Give yourself a break or you will pay for it after surgery by going into surgery with inflamed muscles.

I understand your ADHD but maybe find a different outlet for your energy. Upper body and core workouts will be helpful.. What about swimming? Water aerobics?

 

[healthgal46]

My own opinion, the reason why IT and piriformis problems arise from a hip surgery is because hip surgery is a major surgery. It traumatizes your muscles and the IT band during surgery(whether they are cut or just moved). Hip surgery is a physically rough surgery.

Rule of thumb from my PT, if it hurts you don't do it. Of course there is a difference between stiff and minor discomfort. If it HURTS back off. If it makes you hurt more back off. Also, you are not giving your body time to heal. I understand from what you said that you are using the foam roller everyday. So where is the healing period? Give yourself a break or you will pay for it after surgery by going into surgery with inflamed muscles.

I understand your ADHD but maybe find a different outlet for your energy. Upper body and core workouts will be helpful.. What about swimming? Water aerobics?

i haven't had hip surgery yet, i am in the pre surgery forum. i am basically working through the tightness and over use of the muscle and band. i know my body, does it hurt so much yes some days it does and i do back off but i am pushing through certain types of pain because i want it to come easier and be stronger coming out of surgery. i don't know how long these muscles have been weak and i never used these muscles (stabilizer muscles for hip) ever till now months ago. i thought working out doing squats, presses and extensions work those muscles they do but not so they are overused and weak and getting stronger.

 

[webbie73]

I know you wrote this on the pre surgery forum. The second paragraph is related to pre surgery. Many people have come here to help you, myself included. Have you though of water exercise?. It strengthens without inflaming? I just fear you are over doing it now which will prolong your recovery. I know you think it will help to work out and strengthen now. Maybe you need to find the happy medium. Overworking and working enough to help.

 

[healthgal46]

no somebody who has ADHD and who doesn't work out is going nuts right here I clean the house no problem but I tried getting on the treadmill and for some reason my body is like no no no so I gave up after 10 minutes I get off in my shins are killing me or at least my shin with my bad hip I tell you I'm going nuts right now because I need to work out but my body for some reason in my subconscious to say no so what do i do I haven't even had surgery and I'm going bonkers right now​

 

[craftdee]

Well @healthgal46 I'd say you've got shin splints - been there, done that, got the T shirt (in case you haven't had them before here's a description from broken link removed: https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Shin_splints?open " ‘Shin splints’ is the common term for medial tibial stress syndrome. It refers to pain felt anywhere along the shinbone from knee to ankle. People who play sports that involve a lot of running are particularly prone to this injury. One of the most common reasons for this pain is overuse, such as trying to exercise beyond your current level of fitness"

I think you hit the nail on the head yourself when you said

for some reason my body is like no no no

Your body IS telling you to back off, or at least do something different. As @webbie73 has suggested, water exercise may be the answer... you can really get moving (and burn off that nervous energy) with limited risk of further inflaming what are clearly inflamed muscles and soft tissues and low pain because you're not weight bearing. She is right too when she says that you really don't want to go INTO surgery with inflammation... in fact I had to have my inflamed gallbladder removed before my surgeon would do the THR because he didn't want any site for potential inflammation!

Pop over to the site I've linked, it's got a few ideas that may help you, alternative approaches to exercise etc well worth a look :cool: On a side note, I suffer from depression and anxiety and know how hard I beat myself up pre op, I really made myself miserable... I am worried that your're doing the same thing. I really think you are going to have to try and "get positive" about the temporary limitations you have (until and for a short time post surgery... they are not "punishments" or designed to test you... they are intended to protect you; to give you a good long term outcome. ... perhaps you could get an appointment with someone within your medical support network to discuss how you can come to terms with these limitations in the context of your ADHD, I hate to think of you "going bonkers" after all

Please take this message in the spirit it is intended, I genuinely want this experience to be as easy (well, it's not easy, so "not hard") as it can be for you... so floating ideas of how and who can help are just that... ideas... designed to assist you to that experience

Donna

 

[healthgal46]

so new update, rested for 2 days and couldn't handle being laid up. went to get a cortisone shot in my hip joint, they think i have bursitis in the joint for the time being since my arthritis is so bad. they gave me a rx for a muscle relaxer to calm the agitated muscle aches. but i am tired of the pain. feeling no pain now going to go play with my puppies and than take a hot bath and rest the leg tonight.

 

[healthgal46]

hi donna thanks for the help. i just realized that i think the soreness in my shins is due to me doing my ankle pumps and rotation in and out for the ankles and calves. wow i really am out of shape! but resting and going to keep doing them but rest in between.

 

[craftdee]

Hi @healthgal46 Hopefully the muscle relaxer will help pretty soon, and resting of course Bursitis is an inflammation condition too... pretty common in damaged hips (and post op too) I think yoyou have a lot of inflammation going on, hip and leg, rest is the best solution. I do know how hard it is; I have tendinitis (psoas, glutes/hamstrings) and resting does take the pain away - eventually! but as soon as I try and get "back into it", which I'm desperate to do, it flares up again... another couple of days rest, repeat. It's driving me crazy! I do realize that if I hadn't got the tendons so agitated in the first place (too much too soon, even though it didn't feel like it!) it would have been easier to treat with better results sooner.... oh well, so much for hindsight. All I can say is I hope others learn from MY mistake

I don't know that you're "out of shape", you're probably using muscles etc that you don't use in your normal routine... and using them a lot all of a sudden. Work into it slowly, the ankle pumpls etc don't feel like much of an ask, but if those muscles and tendons have had little use they'll get just as angry being asked to do a lot more than usual as your more commonly used muscles would get if you suddenly started doing full marathons every day

Hope you have a pain free day - or as close as you can get with OA

Donna

 

[healthgal46]

so I completely forgot where I should put this post so I'm putting in new mall all my threads I got a cortisone shot on Thursday and my pain level has been reduced immensely I'm still walking is working out a little and walking on the treadmill and I'm like if my pain is going to be gone like this and I'm going to be so happy I made this decision but I'm hoping that my recovery will be just as fast because I'm not one to be laying around I was also told by my doctor that information is probably caused from foresight just in the greater Ontario which I have no clue where that is

 

[zauberflöte]

Lol you're going to have to explain that bit about greater Ontario to me!!
I am so glad the cortisone injection is giving relief!!


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[healthgal46]

Oops the greater trochanter bone of the hip joint and reading on as well as my Dr said it has been bursitis agitating all the tightness in my leg, the pain a t night, the limpimg, the achest to the knee ugh,

 

[Paydro]

You will be well soon, I have enjoyed your posts and have many of the same thoughts ,fears ,pains , frustrations,anxiety.
Let us all know
Be strong

 

[healthgal46]

Well I guess peeps like myself who loves being active and workout for my health and sanity are not meant to get cortisone shots. Day and had a good light workout on legs mostly pt exercises but good leg day yesterday for the whip I am and now I have pain in the groin. So I am going t assume the bursitis Is flaring up again. Ugh!

 

[chalcedonian1]

@healthgal46 I have not heard that bursitis causes pain in the groin, bursitis pain appears usually on the side of the hip, groin pain is almost always because of joint issues like degeneration/arthritis/deteriorating cartilage etc. I can't tell from your posts if you are scheduled for hip surgery or not, but I think they will not operate until you are 3 months out from having a steroid injection because of the possibility of infection. I assume you are not scheduled for surgery yet, or at least 3 months from now, if at all? Also, when I had injections the dr said ABSOLUTELY not to do any exercises until at least 5-7 days from the shot, so I don't understand the protocol you are under at all form your drs. The shot needs time to spread around in the tissue to become effective. ADHD or not, not sure the information you are getting from your medical providers is thorough or maybe we are only getting smidgens of info from you. Regardless, bursitis is very painful and can only wish you well, cortisone always worked for me with bursitis so don't know what can be done if the shot doesn't work??????

 

[craftdee]

Well sadly @healthgal46 it seems you have a choice of poisons: Back off the exercise/activity or be in pain from inflamed muscles/tendons. I don't think that t's the cortisone shots that you shouldn't have, I think it's the level of activity is too much for your DAMAGED hips.

I do understand that you don't feel you can reduce the cause of your pain (overuse) so you may just have to find strong enough pain medication to deal with the consequences of it. The vast majority of people here will advise you to try to prevent the inflammation in the first place by asking less of already angry tissue, which applies pre op AND post op, it's the advice I got and wished I'd listened more closely to as the tendinitis I have is something I'd much prefer not to have. If you're not "hearing it" I don't know what else we can do.

Hope it works out for you, I don't envy your choice - it's a bear!

 

[Jamie]

Healthgal, bursitis is caused by inflammation and quite frankly if you don't give your hip some rest, it will not get better. Sorry to be so strong, but this is the way it is with inflammation. You need to find a way to rest for many days, possibly weeks. You didn't get this way overnight and it won't heal overnight either. The cortisone cannot do it's job with you continuing to exercises and work that hip joint.

My suggestion would be to have a serious talk with your surgeon and tell him honestly how much activity you are doing. I would be very surprised if he supports what you're trying to do. I am worried about you and that is why I'm saying this. I fear you are headed for even more problems ahead if you don't get this inflammation under control before surgery.