THR I’m worried about every new ache!<

@hiphoser thank you very much for your kind words. I think the surgeon missed slicing through the humour bone shame he didn't miss the sitting bone. It has hurt no matter what I sit in, including royal throne. But today attacked the settee. It has been taunting me telling me it's too low to sit on but today ha ha! Big cushion covered by duvet folded 3 times and wow, heaven. Me too for long haul to recovery but that's how the cookie crumbles. Some people will recover quicker, some people won't have arthritis. Man, I am so wise today.
 
@Jamesdean , My house looks like a storm blew all available firm cushions and yoga blankets onto my couches. LoL. Seriously though, I folded three yoga blankets so that I could sit on the sofa in our study while hubby is working on his computer. On our family room recliner, I have a firm cushion to keep from sinking down too far while watching TV or knitting. On the kitchen table chair, I have another cushion to pad my poor butt incision while eating. Then, of course there’s the weird contraption we have on our toilet so that I can sit on it without breaking 90 degrees. (I so look forward to chucking that ugly thing! But not as much as I looked forward to chucking the Dreaded Compression Stockings!). So glad you found another “comfortable” place to sit. It’s the small things, eh?
 
It's bliss, it's a victory. For eating I allow for at least one eighth of meal ending up on olothes as I can't get legs under table yet and have always eaten at a table. I can now watch TV on settee and don't have to resort to bed, as I said small victory and I think our eventual recoveries are the sum total of the small victories!!! I am so so wise today, it's frightening!!!!!
 
Definitely some soulmates here! I am back in the marital bed now on a much more comfortable mattress. Learning to sleep on my back has been a very good thing so now I can choose between three sleeping positions and my back itself is benefitting. I have kept the bed downstairs in case “Sir Snore-a-Lot” is too loud and I need to decamp. I sort of miss binge watching The Crown at 3am but am now sleeping through. Just as well as back at full time work.

The one issue I have left is pain and stiffness on walking for longer than 15 minutes unaided. I am trying to convince myself this is still part of the “Grand Recovery” so am back on Paracetemol to help with this if needed. If not a bit better in another month will probably make an appt with GP and see what might be causing it.
 
Ah, @SurreyGirl , I’m sorry you’re still struggling. I know from personal experience that the I Know I’ll Get There Mantra is just plan hard to get sometimes. It is right now for me, too. When that is the case for me, I try to remember all the assurances I get here from other Smarties who’ve walked the walk, literally. Hang in there! We will get there together.


@Layla
1) How sweet that you've knit all of those little newborn hats. All made with love I'll bet.
You must sit and wonder what precious little head it may land on. Nothing sweeter, or softer than the yummy scent and sensation of kissing a newborn's head.

Yes, I do think of the sweet little heads that will wear my hats! What a blessing making those hats has been for me. I also love that our hospital lets the new mommies choose the hat for their babe. What fun! I love coming up with new color combinations and patterns to charm the mommies.


3) Nothing more annoying than a "know it all" telling you which approach you should have chosen, or how far along you should be, all while yammering on with their two God given natural hips still in place.
Shush already, lol.

I try to remind myself that they really don’t know how hurtful these comments are, but geez! Come on, oh ye people-with-biologic-hips-and-unhelpful-mouths! Just sit down, eh?


4) Sadly, many medical professionals have a poor bedside manner. I always console myself with the thought that they probably graduated last in their class, made it by the skin of their teeth and are missing a sensitivity chip.
Aaah, then I feel all better :heehee: yep, I just said all that. Try it, it helps, lol.

Ok, yep I said it, too.

5) Patience is key and thankfully you get that.

A lesson I need to learn again every day. Thanks again for your kind words, Layla!
 
@Josephine: Oh,I love that answer, and no, I’d much rather have the plain old garden variety post-op pain. The posh name is what the doctors told me I had, (they said they saw it on ultrasound) before they finally saw the two big labrum tears in my hip. And the arthritis, of course. They eventually saw that, too. Anyhoo, the pain I feel is right where the gluteus medius tendon joins the hip, and oh, boy, is it ever sore. Tylenol, sit, ice, and knit: that’s the plan. And hope wise Josephine is right, and my regular old post op pain just gradually resolves.
 
@hiphoser I haven't been on your thread for a bit, but I just read through it and I am so sorry you are having your ups and downs and all arounds with your recovery. It really stinks to have PT make such a hash of things. I went with the no PT post op first hip for one major reason, I've rehabbed two horses with soft tissue injures in the past few years, and worked really closely with my vet, as I've been the one doing all the hand walking, icing and watching a horse on stall rest suffer and finding ways to keep them entertained. I learned that injured soft tissue requires slow and steady rehab, so the healing tissue is able to lay down in a uniform way, which is best for ROM and healing. The vets would NOT put horses with soft tissue injuries (I'm talking about strained tendons or ligaments...nothing as extreme as what is done to us during hip surgery!) through anything like the ridiculous PT we as humans are asked to go through by certain OSs post-op THR. It is insanity! The rehab schedule for a horse with a suspensory ligament/tendon lesions or strains is so methodically slow and steady, with icing after every walk in hand, and then gradually moving to under saddle work for months and months...nine months to be exact for ligament injuries, as they have poor blood supply, six months for tendons. The only feedback we get as owners and vets is the ceasing of swelling and heat, an ultra-sound every eight weeks and a lameness check at those junctures. Many horses get brought back too quickly, with lots of promises of faster recoveries with additional treatments that have no research to support the expense of said treatments, and they go lame again. It takes time and patience to heal the horses' soft tissues....

Anyhow, back to hips. I stumbled upon theBoneSmart site, and was thrilled by the slow steady walking approach to rehabbing, along with the icing, here. It made so much sense to me. I had posterior THR, and the OS explained what soft tissue "disturbance" (seriously? :rotfl:) occurred with this surgery. He explained about the ligament(s) that have to be moved to access the joint and that facia has to be cut between the two larger muscles (I forget which ones they are) and he described it as "parting a curtain" (more :rotfl:). I guess that it has to be couched in a certain way for us humans, but for those who have worked with horse vets get a giggle out of it! I asked my OS a million questions pre-surgery and "played" with the prosthesis in his office etc. He was so thrilled when I forgot my phone with all my questions on it at my six week post-op check first surgery - he does have a sense of humour thank goodness! I worked for a vet in my early twenties and assisted in surgery for dogs with hip dysplasia....it definitely is carpentry, no matter what language it is dressed up with! Luckily my OS was all about walking for the first six weeks, building up slowly...but don't get neurotic about it. I listened to my body most of the time, but did hit the boundaries a couple of time along the way. But I did no hip PT but did do modified upper body and core work that I need to keep up with for second surgery. Literally it was tightening my transverse abdominus, and doing push ups and dips to comfort off the kitchen counter, and I didn't measure my walking, I just started slowly around the farm, or out in a box store if the weather was bad, but mostly around our farm, on the tracks and driveway...gravel.

It makes me so mad when I hear about folks who have been unnecessarily injured by PT. I have read about it so many times here. It seems those who have gone the heavy reps PT route right after surgery have had the hardest time as it literally add insult to injury, and then it takes forever to undo. It also makes me so angry about folks who are told ridiculous stories about how fast recovery is etc. The less muscle "disturbance", the easier the first six weeks are for sure, but by six months post op, the posterior patient is in exactly the same place as the the anterior patient. No matter what, we need to give our bodies time to heal, before we can strengthen again.

Unfortunately, my husband injured himself when I was four weeks post-op first surgery and he could no longer muck out the two horses (one is a mini). He couldn't do any heavy lifting, and will be having surgery in January to fix his hernia. So we had to scramble to get help for the horse care. Last surgery, by six weeks I was helping with feeding grain to the horses, and our wonderful neighbour was lifting hay nets and mucking stalls for us. By seven weeks I was mucking two stalls, feeding and doing the hay. At nine weeks I was back in the OR with hip #2. I asked my OS at six weeks if I could lift, and we talked about weights etc. He said the lifting would be fine, as long as I didn't break the 90 degrees. I did mini wheel barrow trips. I iced and elevated after each barn session and just did my activities of daily living and no extra walking at that point. I used the golfers reach a lot. My husband could still lead the horses out to pasture. I went into second surgery and went home the same day, despite the hospital PT insisted on making me review exercises and actually do them. She couldn't believe it was possible for me to go home same day. Those exercises set me back for two days post op. Anyway that is over and behind me. I fully intend to go back to riding and competing, but am taking it so slow this time too. It works. Please don't lose faith, you will get back to your active lifestyle, but you have to stop the PT for now and let all those muscles heal. In saying that, I will see my personal PT to work on my upper body and now start slowly strengthening my first surgery leg, as I'm 12 weeks post op next week. However, he'll give me things to do, but no set reps, merely suggestions. He will also start more work on my first op leg to release muscles that have been tight for so long from protecting that hip, and give me more stretching exercises. My OS promotes swimming and the elliptical for after six weeks post op.

This surgery we have help for the first four weeks (I'm just over two weeks out second surgery), and then our teenage son is off school for three weeks over Christmas and hubby can do the feeds. In January I'll get some help again, as I'll have DH's surgery to contend with, and he'll be off for six weeks. No date for that yet, just somewhere between early and mid January. All I am doing is walking. I could probably lose a few pounds for less stress on the prosthesis, but I'm not fat or even plump...just a bit unfit right now for riding. However, I feel the success of my surgeries thus far is from having a good surgeon who does my surgery all the time, and just as importantly, from not doing formal PT on my hips and walking only, slowly and steadily. This time around I will take it even slower (and have done so far), barring any other health issues coming up with my family!!!

I wish you every success in saying no to PT for now and allowing your poor muscles and soft tissues to heal once and for all, before you start slowly building up your walking again and get hiking once more. Slow and steady wins the race, you just had a false start. As they say here, you wouldn't ask yours body to do PT after a car accident, you'd let it heal first. Muscle memory stays with you, and you will be hiking again. Don't lose heart. :flwrysmile: Sending big healing hugs your way!
 
@Alitm Thank you so much for your thorough and thoughtful post! I read it out to my husband, it was so good. How I wish I had found the bonesmart forum before my surgery, or at least immediately after. As it was, I was a month post op when I found it and was already in PT. My OSPA are not at all welcoming with concerns and questions, and as vulnerable as I felt what with everything you deal with post op, it was just beyond me to screw up the energy/courage to take them on. But I have more energy now, and although I still feel anxious and vulnerable, I have been much more assertive, and ditched the PT. I love your explanation about treating tendon injuries in horses. Make perfect sense. I also wish I had tried crutches. I didn’t think a cane felt very stable, so I moved from the walker to walking sticks, which encourage good posture and balance, but don’t help much with taking some of the weight off when you’re sore. Right now, a one-crutch thing might be good while my hip settles down a bit.

I have so much admiration for you double hippies! True recovery warriors, which makes your input so helpful. I laughed about your questions on your phone. LoL. I did that for every appointment, and although my surgeon answered the questions, he didn’t have a sense of humor about it. And his PA, even less so. I’m so glad you have such good neighbors, and that your son will be home to help, too! Your story and words are an inspiration, so thanks again!
 
@hiphoser I went from walker to two crutches, last time, but used them as traditional crutches. There are two folks here, that I know of, who used their crutches as walking sticks and found that much easier and encouraged proper stride and ROM as the strides became longer, but still had the support of crutches. They gave me the idea to try the same thing this time around...so just passing it on. So this time I am using two crutches outside, and one inside. I find I am almost ready for hiking sticks in the house now.

Don't beat yourself up about not standing up to PT. After all my horsie knowledge, and how I rehabbed the first nine weeks last hip, I still succumbed to the wretched PT person the afternoon of my second surgery, and did all the :censored: exercises she asked me to do, as I wanted to come home, and she had to sign off on it. I mentioned it to my OS at my ten-day check-up. We all know my hospital (small but growing) needs to shift in their PT thinking, and all that, but OS just asked me what had happened and kinda rode the fence on it. I recognize he has his work cut out with it all, so I didn't take it any further. I know what I have to do to get going again...but it is so hard to read stories of folks being injured like yourself. It is a huge surgery and we do feel really vulnerable afterwards, no matter what level of activity we are used to previously. Just wanted to give you some support and encourage you on. The slow and steady wins the race really works, particularly for those of us who have had more "muscle disturbance"!

The only good thing about being a double hippy is that one gets to learn from mistakes made first time around!! :loll:
Wishing you a healing day:flwrysmile:
 
One foot outta the ODIC.........

Today I ran several errands, shopped for stocking stuffers, and got into Trader Joe’s for the first time since my surgery! Was wandering for about a half hour. Oh, how I enjoyed that! Now I’m ensconced on the recliner, gel pad beneath me, and wondering if I’ll pay for this tomorrow. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed!
 
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:good-bad:hard to find that balance sometimes. Nice to get out in the world.
But hopefully today is a good day.:tada:
 
@Mojo333 Yes, yesterday was a decent day, and I was very well behaved RE icing and not overdoing things, but today I am back to the horrible pinching when I walk. Oh, man! This really is discouraging. It’s been over three weeks since I landed in the ODIC, and I honestly don’t see much, if any, progress based on how I feel today.I’m also bummed by the seeming lack of care I’m getting from my OS office. No one there seems to really be concerned about my recovery, or lack there of. It’s almost as if they do the surgery, and if you progress according to the majority, then YAY. But if you hit the wall, and if (heaven forbid!) you’re anxious about hitting the wall, then you become that phone call nobody wants to answer. I got my call on Friday returned by a receptionist, so I didn’t even have the chance to ask any questions . So, I’m left to Dr Google to try to figure out the off and on pinching, which is really confusing. I’m wondering if I could mark my X’s On Josephine’s body diagram and get her to weigh in?
 
Hi hiphoser,
I'll tag @Josephine for you. She's been away from the forum for a couple days and may have to do a little catch-up upon her return, but you're on her list.
Wishing you comfort as you wait.
@hiphoser
 
It’s almost as if they do the surgery, and if you progress according to the majority, then YAY.
Bingo. Doctors as a whole seem to suck pretty bad at the whole post-treatment planning thing, but surgeons are a special breed. That's why I've started referring to mine as a cutter - he's really, really good at the cutting thing, but the healing has been pretty much left up to me.

All the best with the ODIC! It's a jealous club, and it will do everything it can to trick you into thinking you're out when you're not. The worst cons are the "day passes" - days when you think you're finally free and you set out to make up for lost time. For example:

Today I ran several errands, shopped for stocking stuffers, and got into Trader Joe’s for the first time since my surgery! Was wandering for about a half hour. Oh, how I enjoyed that!

But the ODIC has an achilles heel: patience. Exploit it. Look askance at day passes, and go slow. Have patience. They hate that, and eventually they'll turn you loose. Good luck!
 
Ok, update for my loyal Smarties. Had a PT appointment today since my neice (also a PT) suggested he check my pelvic alignment. It was wonky (not surprised) so he gently helped it to realign and my back feels much better. But not my hip. On to my OS, where I met with a different PA (very nice woman!). She feels my pain is due to angry glute tendon and prescribed Voltaren gel applied to my glute tendon area, and my whole scar, four times a day. And, she wants me to sit down, and when I walk, to resort to the walker, to decrease weight bearing on that tendon for two weeks. She noted that my butt and scar (that’s where my scar is for the posterior mini approach) is reddened, and she asked how much ice i was using. I said about an hour at least four times a day. She said to cut back on that since it is irritating to my skin. I never use ice without something covering my skin, so I will follow all other instructions enthusiastically and to the letter, but I am loathe to decrease my ice. I love my ice! I feel warm feelings for my ice . So, I’ve applied the first dose of the Volteran, dusted off my walker, and am currently cheating a bit by sitting on ice (with two layers of cloth between it and my skin). Fingers crossed that giving the glute tendon a rest and some topical anti-inflammatory medication will do the trick. *sigh*. Trying not to feel crummy about the walker, which I ditched two and a half months ago!
 
Fingers crossed that giving the glute tendon a rest and some topical anti-inflammatory medication will do the trick. *sigh*. Trying not to feel crummy about the walker, which I ditched two and a half months ago!
:fingersx::fingersx: double fingers crossed.
Maybe you ditched it a little early..?
I hope that this does the trick!

Just play "granny with the Walker" for a bit and should be able to tell soon it this is helping!
Maybe by Christmas things will have improved!:dancing:

Hope today is a better day!
 
Hi to you @hiphoser Well finally you are getting some answers so that's onwards and upwards and hopefully the gel will do the trick. Maybe I will have to have a bash at that as well. Try not to despair about going back to the walker, easy to say I know. I went from two crutches to one crutch in a couple of days then no crutches, then two and then one and none, sometimes one but when I am tired. For some people this recovery business is going to be a breeze whereas for others for whatever reason will be long. So onwards, sidewards, backwards and upwards it is...

Dean
 
Hi @hiphoser just checking in on you and your progress. :) :-) (:

I must say that neither Voltaren nor Naproxen gel worked for me for muscle pain. I don't believe it sinks down far past the epidermis. In saying that, I find Voltaren Rapid 50 tablets best if I need pain relief but I normally just take 1000mg Paracetamol first thing in the morning to alleviate night time aches.

I wish you well with your progress on this trying journey which has a light at the end of the tunnel ... we just have to keep focused on it accepting !he :good-bad: :console2:
 
I must say that neither Voltaren nor Naproxen gel worked for me for muscle pain. I don't believe it sinks down far past the epidermis
You're absolutely right in that! There was a bit of research done on it in the UK, where a doctor allowed electrodes to be inserted into his knee at various levels. They took readings and then rubbed Voltarent gel into the area and took more readings every few minutes. The drug was readily observed in the area at 5mm but never any deeper than that!
Voltaren Rapid 50 tablets best if I need pain relief
Since Voltaren (diclofenac) is an NSAID, the side effects can be pretty severe
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I normally just take 1000mg Paracetamol first thing in the morning to alleviate night time aches.
That's a strange thing to do. Why take it after the period of pain? Besides which, most medications are only effective in the system for about 4-5 hours so it makes more sense to take it every 6 hours regardless - for a while at least.
 

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