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Bilateral TKR Hard night

As others have said it will take time to figure out the positions and props you need to settle into a comfortable position to rest. I also feel that timing your attempts at falling to sleep with your pain medication schedule helps. In the first days I needed my hubby to get everything in position for me. I think I had 6 big pillows and three or four little ones! I was eventually able to nest in just right and get to sleep. Be gentle with yourself and patient this is a journey of trials and errors. Forward steps and backslides. We're here to listen and support. You will get through this and on to the pain free life!
 
I think my doctor said not to bend the knees more than 90* for two weeks to make sure the incision didn't split open. Has anyone else been told that? I feel I'm able to but I shouldn't. Thanks.
 
Don't force your knee to bend. If it easily bends then it isn't a big concern. There are stitches in the underlying area and either glue or staples on the outer skin. Your job right now is icing and elevating and trips to the bathroom and maybe kitchen to grab a drink.
 
Tonight has been hard and painful. I was on the bed and over I went onto my side! It felt great! I would like to do it again but I scared myself. Do you sleep on your sides?
 
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I was on the bed and over I went onto my side! It felt great! I would like to do it again but I scared myself. Do you sleep on your sides?
The first time I went onto my side was in hospital. The nurses put me that way for a change of position.
You will be most comfortable if you have a pillow between your knees, to stop your top leg pressing on your underneath knee.
 
If side lying is comfortable for all means try it!


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I am a total side sleeper usually but at 7 weeks out I do the pillow arranging and rearranging but can only sleep in bed for about 3.5 hours then I have to move to the recliner.
I am hopeful that one day soon I will wake up in bed and it's morning and I slept the whole night lol!
 
Tomorrow is my first PT and they take off he bandages. I'm not looking forward to the long ride to and from. I think I'm worried about everything for some reason. Maybe because it's dark outside and then it all comes creeping in. Both my legs are so swollen above the knee. They feel all the time like that are completely wrapped up tight in something. They don't really bend much.. too tight. I have them out straight but I don't like to put them up high much. I do a few hours a day and I ice a couple of times but find I like it best sitting in the recliner and laying back. It will be one week tomorrow. I've had to help myself out a little more than I thought I would. Some people just better care takers than others. It's fine, I have done well, just a bit disappointing. Is it time for me to be going into the "blues"?
 
You're doing really well. It's still very early days.

Don't let the PT therapists do anything that hurts you. You really only need a very little exercise at this stage. Just walking around is probably enough.

I found that the blues came and went all the time for the first three months.
 
@gerilari good morning!
This is all new. I know. I'm just ahead if you but on the other end at 3months. My advise is just go s l o w. Lol.. do what you can and be safe. This is a strange and unknown journey that is different for everyone. But trust me. You'll be fine. Ck in here often. Vent! Ask! Share and pray. There's so much care and help and answers here that I couldn't get anywhere else. God bless you and I'm praying that your pt goes well. Let us know what happens. CLAY
 
Oh. P.s. concerning the blues. I could write a book on the issue. Its normal and seems overwhelming at times. When time seems to stand still just remember "this too will pass", much healing is occuring and the big picture you'll be better soon (in comparison to our length of life, haha)....believe in yourself, your doctor, and bonesmarties who care about you. And take it one day at a time.
 
At just a week I'm sure your knees very swollen from the surgery. Continue to take it easy, resting, elevating, icing and short walks around the house is all you need. Don't let anyone hurt you at PT and if anything hurts stop.

The first two weeks are the hardest pain wise, but just like the knees, blues are different for everyone. I was ok the first month, but the second was very rough and by the third I just wanted to move on.
 
PT went ok I guess. I was told that I wasn't as far as they would have expected me to be. It's only been a week and I was told not to do anything until Saturday. I'm not sure what I was suppose to accomplish. I was told I could do anything I wanted except bend more than 90* for another week. So I guess that is that. Gave me a list of exercises again. They wave it at me and say do these twice a day and that is all there is. As long as they said I was ok to do what I wanted to, I will now start working on it myself. I can do it alone I think.
 
Wow. That's weird. But at least they didn't manhandle you! My PT said I should do just a few of the gentler ones a few times a day rather than the massive numbers twice a day. She said the main thing was to keep some gentle movement going every hour or so.

I agree that it doesn't sound very helpful. Did you get your dressing off?
 
My dad and best friend only went to PT for two weeks. They felt they could do the same things at home and PT wasn't covered with their insurance. My complication made things more difficult and PT was necessary just to be careful, plus my PT was part if my OS offices.

Go back to your post-op reading and check out heel slides. Lots of people here have done no formal PT, they just used their knees and listened to their bodies. @sistersinhim and I think @Red's Mom did no PT, along with some of our staff.
 
That's true. I did no pt after 11 knee surgeries, including my rtkr in June, and I'm doing just fine. I'm single and have a home, yard and pets to take care of besides myself, so that was my therapy. Just using your knees in everyday living is enough for them the rehab themselves. Our bodies know what we need to do to repair the damages done to it! IMO, pt is way over rated and over used. Natural is the best way for me!
 
Dearest @gerilari It is very OK to feel blue, sad, teary, frustrated, angry and disappointed during this recovery process. Oh, girl did I have a good meltdown or 2 or 3 or..... Celle once told me tears are healing and that is true. I wish I could post my angry meltdown video with my son but it would be censored, it was about chicken wings!

Also please remember that the assault of surgery with anesthesia, lack of sleep and the narcotics alter us the care receiver as well. Some people have no clue how to be caregivers and be helpful. My beloved made me person several times for sure. Read my thread and you'll probably laugh. One thing I found helpful was being prepared. I had a little notebook and recipe cards that I would write down things on. When someone would visit and say "do you need anything". I would say "is that an honest question". If they said yes I'd hand them the card of my most pressing concern. These were simple things like "take out recycling", "salt the front porch" "put these dishes in the sink".

The lists were more for my kids and really good friends that would be able run up and down the stairs or vacuum the house. Then there were the games, one hysterical night my son and two of his friends had a speed floor washing contest for a cold beer!

Life after two new knees is going to be very topside turvey for awhile. Try to relax. Try to look at your predicament with a sense of humor. Tell those around you how you are feeling, let them see your tears. Ask them to read and or watch some YouTube of TKR preferably on a big screen TV. I'll post on the physical recovery next.
 
Regarding the physical recovery. I am 99% sure the mantras are the way to recover. They make sense. Intuition and my education told me that to exercise a huge surgical wound that rebelled with increased pain, swelling and heat didn't sound like a healing process.

I had amazing home care PT's they checked in on me, massaged my stiff, tight and sore muscles and assessed the incisions. We walked a bit and they coached on my gait. They encouraged me to progress as I felt safe from a walker to a rolling walker to trekking poles to a cane. They helped me to find and re-find my balance. Never once did they push or pull on my legs. Never once did they hurt me. Never did they threaten me. They were emotionally supportive. They helped me understand the progression of recovery. They had a few exercises they suggested I do "if I felt up to it" heel slides, quad sets and straight leg lifts.

I regularly did heel slides still do. My quads didn't fire for a long time and when they came back I liked being able to fire them again. Leg lifts also took awhile, once I could do them I quickly didn't do any more :heehee:

Then came OP PT. The first session, I just kind of went along with things and I paid for it dearly I was in incredible pain for three or four days. I had so much pain I canceled the second session The third session when I told PT that I had had so much pain and that there were exercises I was not going to do anymore she said "you will do what I tell you to do". She absolutely would not enter into a conversation with me about this being my recovery and my body so I turned around and walked out the door never went back.

I am not an exerciser I have never been an exerciser I believe that my active life is exercise enough. I do practice yoga and I do ride my horse on a regular basis. At this point in time my knees and legs are more functional than they've been for the last 10 years. Both knees bend at least 135° and are completely straight. I have a feeling that my prosthetic can't hyper extend because I have never been able to get to a positive extension.

I will tell you that I do have to discipline myself as far as not allowing myself to backslid. By this I mean once I was able to rise without my hands - committing to never using my hands again. Once I was able to go up and down the stairs like a regular person foot after foot - not allowing myself to go down the old way.

If driving to therapy and then being tortured in therapy is difficult for you you might want to consider trying your recovery following the BoneSmart mantras In case you're wondering, my orthopedic surgeon had no issue with my quitting physical therapy as long as I promised to keep moving around.

Whatever route you choose to go just please be gentle patient and kind to yourself and your new knees!
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