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It is interesting, but not unexpected, that those who were most active prior to surgery seem to report less satisfaction with the speed of recovery than those who had simpler goals of eliminating arthritic pain and being able to do the basic activities of life.
I think that's a poor generalisation. With the very greatest respect to all those active persons, don't for one minute think that non-athletic types are any the less dissatisfied with the slowness of recovery. They are just as capable of getting frustrated, impatient and depressed with as the other group - they are just more likely to be able to resign themselves to it and not chomp at the bit so much!

I also dislike the inference I've read in a variety of sites how the 'elderly' (?70+) will be content with lesser outcomes and frankly, that makes me want to :th_2tantrum2:. So ageist!
 
^ True. And "simpler goals of eliminating arthritic pain and being able to do the basic activities of life" aren't so simple to those who have those as goals.
 
Jo and Kneeper,
My post was not intended to demean or disrespect the challenge, difficulty or value of the efforts of all victims of arthritis, whether they decide to have TKR, BTKR or no surgical intervention at all.

Everyone who suffers will make their own personal decision. I certainly do not believe that any path is easier or simpler than any other path.

I completely agree with both of your statements. My thought were stated only in the context of my own personal path to a decision for my future, one that I hope will reach well into my 70's. . I thought this forum was intended to assist and support those in the decision making process or in recovery and rehab.

I apologize if I have offended you. It was not intended.

I am surprised and shaken at being chastised for my thoughts.
 
I think Gene has a valid concern. I cannot answer it for you though, so sorry. I do know from my first knee replacement it was very hard work, and it has been very much worth it to this point. Now I am sort of asking the same question as I will be facing a second knee replacement. I am just glad I am NOT like a spider with 8 legs. I know with every surgery there is a chance of side effects, and there really is no such thing as "minor" surgery too. This is not minor that is for sure. It is a committment to hard work, but it CAN turn out great. This can be great for someone who has no alternatives left. I still think it will take me a few more months to get psyched up to do this! But I do feel very positive about it. I am still seeking more info from my doctor. Thanks to all here for what I learn! :kittykiss:
 
I thought this forum was intended to assist and support those in the decision making process or in recovery and rehab.

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That IS the purpose of the forum, Gene.

Your thoughts are welcome, as are others' comments who might respectfully disagree with your posts. BoneSmart is a place where members can have differing opinions and express them, so long as everything remains friendly and civil.....just as you have done.
 
Indeed, as Jamie says. My intention in posting that comment (which I should have added in there) was to look at it from the point of view of other members and guests who might have taken it literally.

No offence taken nor intended on my part!
 
Jo and Kneeper,
My post was not intended to demean or disrespect the challenge, difficulty or value of the efforts of all victims of arthritis, whether they decide to have TKR, BTKR or no surgical intervention at all.
No problems. Sorry if I came off as snotty. :(
 
Thanks guys. I always have to remember that electronic communication is short on body language and voice inflection. Our words and intended meaning are not always perfect matches.

Smilies help :wink:
 
Here is something that I do not beleive that anybody has mentioned. When we ask, "Will my new knees be good enough?" we have to admit that presently, we have reached the end of the line with what God gave us---our knee, or knees, whether the case may be, is not only not doing what they are intended to do, they are actually causing us mental and physical pain. In short, we have decided ultimately that it is time to take the calculated risk or risks and move on in a different direction with entirely different knees. We are out of options

Will they be as good as our "birth" knees---no, not really close at all when our "birth" knees were in their prime. However, having lived so long in pain and in frustration of not being able to come close to enjoy our lives, they will, most likely, be more---much more---than "good enough."

My ROM is a tich under 130---not what it was when I was younger and had healthy knees, but with what I want to do now, and with how I am feeling now, they are much much better than what I had on November 7th, 2007, the day before I had my BTKR.

This is a terrible analogy, I know but years ago I took a grad class on chemical dependency. When does a chemically dependent person finally decide to make the necessary change? When they hit rock bottom. I believe that for many of us, the same thing is true with our knees. We hit rock bottom and were possibly depressed and in pain---not only physically, but also mentally---with the way our lives were heading.

We finally admitted that something had to be done; that something was some type of total joint replacement---albeit knee or hip. Drastic---darn right; but from where we were standing and where we were heading, that "drastic" gave us some hope, and so we took the "leap of faith" and here we are.

Will they be "good enough"? If you have been where many of us have been, in the depths of despair, they are not just "good enough"; they are spectacular.

Bluntly, when I was at that time of my life, faced with what was going on with me physically and mentally, I really didn't care if they were going to be "good enough." I simply did know that , given the amount of pain that i was in and the serious limitations put on my activity, they would be a heck of a lot better than what I had. Hey---I was told that I could sleep at night without pain; I could be pretty active with very few limitations; I could be happy again with who I am. Considering that I was at the bottom of the well, so to speak, and these new knees were going to help me climb out. What did I have to lose?

Do you still have options? Have you hit the bottom of the well?

Tim C.
 
Thanks Tim. Well said.

I am there,
I'm tired of denial.

I'm tired of walking up the steps at work making believe that it doesn't hurt. I'm tired of making believe that I don't limp.

I'm tired of the depression.

I'm tired of gaining weight so that I can blame the pain and inability to function on the weight rather than the facts as they appear in the x-rays.

I'm tired of not being able to stand for more than 10 minutes without looking for a chair.

I'm tired of not being able to walk after sitting in a chair because I get so stiff from not moving.

I'm am just tired!

I give up. It's time to take the risk, make the decision and stop making excuses. The one thing that is a sure thing is that it is not getting better without intervention in the form of two new knees.

I have appointments on the 1/25 and 2/3 with two different TKR specialists. I will get their opinions, ask the relevant questions and make the committment to procede. It no longer seems like such a hard decision because I have turned the corner. I can't do this any longer. I've got to do something different.

I will answer the thread question myself. My new knees will be good enough because what currently exists is not.
 
Gene....are you Egyptian???? Are you in "di Nile"?? :snk:

Sorry. Not really a laughing matter. Sounds like you are THERE! The get it over with stage. We are here to encourage you now and later.

You are in my prayers
 
Yep - that's it - you got there in the end! :egdnc:
 
Best of luck to you Gene. Let us know when the big day is.
The good thing is the pain from your knees after the surgery does get better. If you keep your garbage knees, the pain won't get any better.

I'm sure that after a time of dissatisfaction with your new knees (the recovery is long and painful), you will come to realize that while not your 'birth knees', they are better.

I wanted to be pain free, but at 10 months am still not quite there. (back and right hip issues and some soft tissue issues around the knee).

But life is better anyway than with a grinding knee that went into the trash 10 months ago.
Best,
Sandy
 
Yes Gene, that is true. We also worked harder to get here. I was in pt for three months, had an additonal three months with an athletic trainer and then had two months of pre ski conditioning. In addition, I rode my bike and hiked during those times.

I am in great shape right now--better than before the surgery. I skied at 7 months last year and at 8 months this year. I have skied every day so far--have no swelling and no pain.

I just came back from skate skiing across a lake with some friends. Two of them have wonky knees--and I left them in the dust!!

I love it---embrace your bionic future!!! Kelly
 
Gene, you will be so much better after your TKR. As you know the first few months are tough, but it will be well worth it. I was in PT for 5 months and now can do so much more than before my surgery. Every time I take a step I still can't believe how good my knee feels. No more of that awful bone on bone pain. I don't walk with bent over with a limp anymore and can straighten my leg all the way. It took me a long time to finally give in to the pain, about 15 years. I really don't know why I decided to live like that for so many years-the pain, limping and loss of flexion. Now after 7 months I can say I should have done it sooner. I have my life back.
 
You know Gene you have really helped me to see that I am not so much in burn out from my work, but I just hurt darn it. Like..... all the time. This is something I need to get done expeditiously yet with planning. It is hard to do things when you have to think long and hard about how to get up out of a chair, or what to hold onto when walking across a room, or if you might fall, and then you can't think straight because of the pain distraction. Thanks Gene, you have put my thoughts into perspective. Don't know why I couldn't see this before.
 
Old Goat,
It sounds like you and I are on the same path. Over the past year since my first bone on bone x-ray I have been fighting against the right solution and have been miserable.

I have gone on week long camping/cycling tours which should have been a lot more fun than they were. I was able to do most of the biking but I was in pain every night and could not stand around even to socialize. Carried my "treking poles" whereever I went.

Same for an overnight rafting trip on the Tuolumne River in California.and other cycling trips/weekends.

In all of these cases I did them as much to convince myself that I really didn't need the "final" solution of TKR, but I was miserable on every trip.

The people on this site since I joined a month ago and the threads I have read have brought me to a different place. I don't want to continue going on events/adventures/activities just to prove a point. I want to have fun. I want to smile.

The next trip I take will be with 2 new knees.

Good luck on your process of decision making. I have made mine. The people here at Bonesmart will support you.
 
At 10 days post surgery I can honestly say the pain I'm feeling now is less than the pain I was feeling before surgery. I've already graduated from a walker to a cane. I know everyone doesn't experience the same results and my second knee may not be like this one. But for now with the first knee I can say I'm extremely pleased with and am enjoying the progress.

Ann
 
Gene - I am so delighted to read your latest posts. You have come full circle my friend. A very hard decision I know. But I am sure you won't regret it!

Please let us know how the appointment go. And don't forget to take your list of questions with you!
 
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