28 yo Aussie female with Rheumatoid Arthritis

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dandy_candi

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Hi,

I have been reading posts on your forum for a while now and am ready up post my story.

I am actually in tears now after reading through post-op stories. I am in tears because I can't imagine that being me, and not having hip pain, and what change it could mean for me.

I'll start at the beginning- I am 28 and was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis at 12 years old, so 16 years now.

It affects most major joints in my body, and some joints I didn't even know about until they start to hurt and I find out what they are! (Constantly learning). Main joints that are affected are hips, knees and ankles (and all the small bones of my feet).

I was encouraged by my children's hospital rheumy to continue with the sports I enjoyed when I was a teenager so played tennis, swimming, basketball and various others (I didn't stick long at each). The one sport I have always loved is waterskiing, which I have done since I was 7. That is one thing I have recently (reluctantly) had to give up. It's hard because my husbands family ski race and I have to be around other people skiing and it's the one thing I truly miss that I physically cannot do anymore due up the RA. I still watch and try and get enjoyment out of my family enjoying themselves. That feeling of being on the water is indescribable though.

I have not had any surgeries but have had steroid injections into multiple joints. Most recently I have had steroids into my Sacroilliac joints. Although RA doesn't tend to affect these joints, I believe it is my poor posture caused by my hips that is putting impact onto my SI joints which become unbearably painful.

I feel quite restricted by my joint pain and can't do a lot of what I would like to do but I try and stay positive and enjoy what I can do. I got married 2 years ago and my husband is really great and supportive but also keeps me in check when I start beating myself up or doing too much.
We ended up having a 2 year engagement rather than a 3 year because my physio thought my ankles weren't doing well and I might need surgery and I wanted to be able to walk down the aisle. I was able to walk down the aisle, and although it was a short ceremony because I can't stand for long, we had a wonderful day.

So I have a great Physio who used to be a nurse and is really informative. I have been seeing him for 5 years now. My rheumatologist (rheumy) isn't overly proactive but I've had worse so I stick with her for medication (I need to see her to get my medication approved by the government every 6 months because of the expense of the medication).

My physio was telling me for a long time I had terrible ROM in my hips so I had some X-rays done last year. He said that based on the X-rays I require a hip replacement. He went on to say that because of my age, surgeons would likely push the surgery as late as possible for longevity of implant. I was so shocked that i actually needed surgery but then the thought of having to go on in pain because of my age was really upsetting.

I was scared of surgery and started researching and watching videos (a bit full on but I needed to see them- the computer generated ones were easier to watch ). I had my second steroid injection into my SI joints within 12 months and decided I wanted to see a surgeon. My physio recommended one who has a particular interest in young people, and I called up and was surprised when it was only two months to get in to see him.

So the two months dragged but finally came up last week. I am in central Victoria and the surgeon was in Melbourne so I made a day of it and went to IKEA with my mum and mother-In-law. We got stuck at ikea and then traffic and I was so worried I would miss the appointment and not get in for another 6 months. But I Called up and only 5 mins late I got in to the office. The surgeon's name is John O'Donnell and I found him to be really lovely. He said I was lucky to get in to see him and there must have been confusion when I booked but I was there now so he answered all my questions. I actually had my questions answered and fears allayed in the first answer he gave. He said You don't have to be a certain age, crawling down the hallway in severe pain or have multiple scans showing serious damage to have a replacement. He said from my X-rays there was significant joint space narrowing but all the scans won't show the level of pain and impact on MY life. I was floored. I didn't know what to say. He said I can just book In when it suited me. (I have private health insurance).
He also explained that joints now have a long life and I asked about having multiple revisions and if there would be compromise on the bone but he said bone is actually quite easy to re-grow from grafts so that doesn't tend to be an issue. I kept feeling like I had to defend my position because I expected the opposite reaction.
The wait time to book in is 8-12 months but if I get to the time and decide it's not time I can just move the date.

So now it's just up to me to decide when! Reading all of your posts on how liberating THR has been I am excited!! I know I still have the ankle and knee joints to contend with but who knows the extent my hips are impacting on these joints and they may improve with THR.

Sorry for the Marathon post but I just needed to get it all out there!!

Smiles from Aus
 
dandy candi,
Welcome to Bonesmart, glad you found us, and found a surgeon who looks at how your life is limited and not your age.
Sounds like you have found other members near your age who have had successful THR's and now have their lives back.
Go ahead and book, like you say, you can always postpone your surgery if you are not ready as the date approaches.
Here is a link to some score charts, they will help clarify how limited your life has become because of your hips.
Score chart: how bad is my arthritic hip/knee
All the best!
 
He said You don't have to be a certain age, crawling down the hallway in severe pain or have multiple scans showing serious damage to have a replacement. He said from my X-rays there was significant joint space narrowing but all the scans won't show the level of pain and impact on MY life.
Glad to meet you @dandy_candi ! I am so happy you've found a surgeon who seems to understand. :thumb:
I've just had my first consultation with a surgeon who gave me the "because of your age" we should put it off as long as possible response. But how can he know what it's like to have to reject my little ones' requests to accompany them to the museum or on the playground? When there is a solution right here, why can't I have it? I'm currently working on putting my "case" together for a second opinion from a surgeon, I sure hope I don't have to present as much evidence as I'm gathering!

Anyway, I hope you'll continue to share your journey with us and that it keeps a positive path!
 
MI Chuckie,
Be sure to print off one of the score charts I left for dandy candi in post #2. Take it with you so the surgeons can see just how much your life is limited.
 
@dandy_candi Welcome to BoneSmart! I am delighted to read that you found a surgeon who is totally reasonable and up to date. There is no reason to wait in pain for THR. You are far too young to have any limits to living. And many surgeons are talking about the forever hip these days. Technology is on your side. Get those hips done so you can enjoy life!
 
@Pumpkln thank you, Will do! It's tough to think off the top of your head when asked what limitations we've made, especially when dealing with the pain for a long time. The charts help to think about things even all the doctor's forms don't mention.
 
Thank you sll for your welcomes. Definitely get a second opinion @MI Chickie , I was totally expecting that response but was glad to have a positive reaction. Maybe research surgeons who work with young people as they may be more likely to be proactive rather than re-active.
The surgeon had a survey I was filling out before I met him on an iPad rating different tasks and it was quite comprehensive. He didn't talk to me about it or look at it whilst I was in the appointment, maybe they use it for comparison at the next appt and follow ups after surgery?

Wishing you luck in your search @MI Chickie , there are good surgeons out there!! Keep looking
 
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Welcome to the forum! I'm so glad you found us and that reading here has helped you get to an excellent surgeon who "gets it." Sadly, not all of them do where younger patients are concerned.

In your reading here on BoneSmart, you probably have seen that we've had quite a few members your age and some even younger who needed new hips and/or knees. Keep reading those stories and look forward to the good days ahead when your life is not ruled by your hips.

Please don't hesitate to ask any questions that come to mind. I agree that you should book your surgery as soon as possible, get it done and move on to enjoy yourself. By the time surgery day gets here, I'm pretty sure you'll be more than ready!
 
Hi @dandy_candi Welcome to BoneSmart... you will find this site the BEST resource in your THR journey, bar none! Everyone on here has "walked the walk" (or "hobbled the hobble", :old:) and I found that all the "little things" about surgery and recovery were addressed here rather than with medical staff. Not that I didn't LOVE my OS, he's great :loveshwr: - so down to earth... so Aussie!! The current thinking here in Australia re QUALITY of life rather than chronological age being the primary deciding factor to proceed with surgery is something I am very grateful for... my surgeon(s) - long story - both agreed that when hip pain is impacting badly on your life THAT is the time to do a THR; the benefits to your overall health outweigh the disadvantages of having it early.

My Rheumy agreed, and he's been proven correct; while some of my small bone issues (all those little joints in your feet and hands, aargh.... you know what I mean) have stayed as sore as ever, the long term pain in my lower back and knee (in the opposite leg) have really been alleviated :yes!: I can't believe how much better they are AND on reduced meds!! I feel better generally too (and emotionally) too as having less pain is GOOD, increased mobility equates to increased participation in "life" (the ol' ABC; Act -be active, Belong, Commit, eh?!) It really has made a big difference and you won't regret the decision (okay, at some point in the recovery you WILL ask, why the hell did I do this to myself... but then you'll remember the "before" picture of your life and you'll have your answer!):)

I am curious as to why you have to wait so very long for your op. I am in Western Australia and the lead times may be a little different, but under the PUBLIC system the following (as quoted from a post I made on Tiffany57's thread)

I chose to have my surgery under the Public system simply because it was the same surgeon as I'd been seeing privately and he offered it to me... the last surgery I had with my Private health cover cost me a lot in Out Of Pocket expenses... and Joondalup Health Campus (Public) is close to home (convenient for visits and follow up consults) and is really GOOD - it was Joondalup Private Hospital until 18 months ago when the new Private was built, so I had a really nice single room and all the resources were great. I had three stays there last year (another long story!) If your local Public Hospital is NOT that good and you don't want to use it, is it the surgeon that doesn't have a time slot for 8-12 months?? Like I said the timelines I've quoted are Australian, not Victoria/WA decided so I'm curious

As to putting it off when the time arrives, I did just that - TWICE!! They were very patient with me and as soon as I said "Ready" they said "Go".... I thought I was giving myself time to get things in place (the second time I delayed, the first time was for medical reasons), but in reality all I did was give myself time to stress - which I did in abundance - and for the hip to get worse, MUCH worse! Go for it I say, sooner the better

Don't forget to come back here and bounce your ideas/thoughts/fears off us... we've been there done that. I have a very supportive family, as it sounds like you have, and STILL there were things they just didn't "get" about the whole journey... a bit like the RA really, they "see" what it does to you but can't really relate to how it affects you, how can they? The best medical support I had in my journey, which was full of EXCELLENT medical support, was my GP ... simply because she (at 49) had had a THR!!

Donna:flwrysmile:
 
@craftdee I had gotten private health so I could have choice of Doctor. Knowing my luck the public doctor wouldn't be a good one (I've had my fair share of awful docs) and my sister waited over 2 years for a hip arthroscope so I wanted a bit more control.

Yes the 8-12 months is the surgeons next available appointment. I know of others with RA that have used the public system and have been happy with it but it's just personal choice for me. I do still have to pay $1000 to the surgeon (OS doesn't participate in gap cover) plus anaesthetist fees- anyone in Aus know what these usually cost?

Well also the reason for the wait is that I am currently working casually. I have applied for a part time position at my same workplace but haven't heard about it yet. If I'm casual when I go for surgery I won't have any income in that time plus might not have a job to go back to. Also, my husband and I want to buy an investment property and I wanted to get the mortgage approved and renters in before I had surgery because a gap of minimum 6 weeks off work isn't going to look good on our credit history.
So a few reasons.
I haven't told my Rheumy that I even saw the surgeon and now I've seen him I don't know what to say to her. If she doesn't agree, she doesn't agree I guess but it's my health. my physio said surgeons and specialists often disagree. I wanted to cut down hours at my old job last year when my SI was acting up and I was working an hour from home. She wouldn't sign a doctors letter giving me authority to cut to part time (I'm an adult she shouldn't have really told me if I can and can't work full time) and said to try steroid injections, which granted, did help, but I now work 30 hours a week in a new job 15 minutes from home and am coping much better. I was just constantly exhausted before.

Anyway, thanks for the welcome and look forward to chatting more.


Candice ☕
 
@craftdee and I totally understand what you mean about family being understanding but that they don't actually 'get it'. I have friends online and a few locally with similar issues but none at the stage I am, considering first surgery so it's nice to have others in the same place as me.


Candice
 
Oh I'm not against Private Health Candice, @dandy_candi ... we had it for YEARS (mainly so we didn't have to pay the extra Medicare Levy :snork:) but - like you - I had my share of bad doctors and the last one just happened to be in the Private sector, as in he ONLY did work in the Private sector.

I had a procedure for Cervical cancer done at his Private hospital (literally HIS, he built it, it is tiny and not that well equipped but okay for Day procedures) and he was AWFUL. I had over $2000 out of pocket expenses including the anesthetist and ended up with an infection to boot. When it didn't work and hysterectomy was the next step, I went to a different surgeon (as I couldn't stomach going to him again) who happened to work in both sectors... she did a great job; I had it done in under the Public system at her suggestion... and was so impressed we decided we were happier to contribute extra to the Public system via the extra Medicare Levy than keep paying HBF; the net cost is about the same.

I did stress about having some random operate on me for this surgery :shocked: but what I have discovered is (with Elective, as in planned, surgery) that I had my choice of Doctors... all the way through (some, a VERY few, only work in Private hospitals; they were not available to me, but I literally had the choice of hundreds!) I saw an OS in Emergency (I had a fall), he didn't do THR so suggested I see his practice partner - who just happened to be my sister's OS at the time, so I was happy to see him. I liked him, liked the way he thought about the whole thing and trusted his judgement.. very important in this "game".

When the time came for surgery (I had delayed, not him) he was going to Canada for study and asked if I wanted him to do the surgery before he went the following week (he was leaving two days after surgery date, so no I didn't... I wanted some consistency with follow up appointments etc), did I want to see his Locum in his ("my" OS's rooms), did I want a referral to someone else (of my choosing) or did I want to leave it, which he didn't recommend as the joint had started to collapse and he felt it would fail completely any day... which would lead to an emergency situation with no choices in any real sense of the word as you present at Emergency - only Public Hospitals have ED's - and whoever is on duty becomes YOUR surgeon

I did some research, decided on his Locum.... LOVE him; :roseshwr:in fact I'm now in a bit of a quandary for hip 2; do I go to OS1 who I really like but don't know what his surgery is like, knowing that I can have the surgery in the hospital I had the first one in - which was excellent, or do I wait until David comes back from HIS Fellowship early next year and find out that he'll only do surgery in the hospital close to HIS rooms... a brand new hospital I don't have any experience with and a lot further from home... I'm sure I won't get David AND my lovely local hospital; I just ain't that lucky :umm:

My son had a serious accident while at work (he's self employed, so no, not Workers Comp :heehee:) and was taken to the nearest Emergency Dept, we thought that as he had top table Private cover he would be able to move to a Private hospital closer to home (and his then-10-week-old twins!!) to recuperate from that first surgery - but NO, once you are under a surgical team's care that's where you stay. He ended up having four surgeries, losing his Great toe and it's neighbour... spending 4 weeks in that hospital, Public and crappy; not like the one close to us AT ALL. All he got extra for going in as a Private patient was a daily newspaper and a parking permit for his wife!! Lesson learned... "choice of Doctor" is NOT a guarantee Private Health or not. It IS part of the advertising for Private funds, but not totally accurate... who knew they embellish the truth!! Matt's still got Top private cover, don't worry he's had his money's worth with those twins :rotfl:

What we also learned is that the bigger Public hospitals like that one was (it's closed now, been replaced with the new hospital I talked about earlier) have the best surgeons... they usually work within both systems... certainly the one Matt had was top notch with an excellent reputation; he moved to Albany 400km from Perth for "lifestyle reasons" and would you believe it my sister (who's OS is the one who I went to because she went there!), who had moved close to Albany six months earlier, had her hip replacement earlier this year by him... small world and all that

As far as the Anesthetist fees go... my last anesthetic under Private health cost $900 for a one hour op, they charge in units of ten minutes of time... I got back just under $600; there is a website that tells you what the rebates are from different insurers, but you can only estimate it as you don't know how long the op is going to be. Plus I think it's for GA (mine was) not spinal so it could be less for that. You will find the site by looking up the Australian Society of Anaesthetists with any search engine.

It's interesting your Rheumatologist is like that... mine is too; really quite "remote", not really a "people person".... he wears a bow tie... that's all you need to know, lol. I only keep going to him coz I'm too lazy to change along with all the rigmarole that involves :rolleyes: You're right, it IS your health, your decision - and as long as you're prepared to accept responsibility for that decision it's nothing really to do with your rheumy... she should be kept informed for her records - of course she SHOULD be interested, but hey you can't expect miracles! There does seem to be a certain amount of professional jealousy between medical and surgical specialists, who knows the answer to THAT one! You're doing the right thing making a judgement as to your best course of action, getting different options and evaluating them.

Hope you're plans pan out, my son and his wife have a couple of rental properties... getting the loans (he's self employed so it's more complicated, like you being casually employed) is the hardest bit. He has had to drop the rent on one of them as it was rented for a mining company exec and they're scaling back production in the South West, but it's still ticking along setting his family's future up, as he puts it :cool:

Like I said before, knowing what I know now I'd go for the THR years before I did; it feels like I lost that time - always making allowances for "the hip", I'll never get my forties back so all I can do is be glad I didn't wait any longer wasting my fifties; at least I'm still active enough to get some REAL use out of my shiny new hip :yes: you're still young enough to get a LOT out of it even if you wait a while to get those ducks in a row

Anyway, I've raved on enough... problem when you type fast and talk a lot :heehee:

Donna :flwrysmile:
 
Candice, I have to share with you, my oldest daughter(now 33) has RA. She was diagnosed at 16. It got pretty bad, until they got her on some meds that agreed with her,and the right balance, and she also continued sports for a bit, she was a softball wiz, star player, very competitive. So she was in remission for a few years if that. Fast forward to when she was 27(6yrs ago), her RA had flared beyond belief, and her right hip was blowing up. She couldn't hardly get out of bed, no real social life, she(like most of us with hip/joint problems) had to plan her whole life around what she could/couldn't do, and the hip was seemingly fusing itself frequently.

Then she found her HERO surgeon, when others hesitated, this guy jumped in and said basically "I got this". So at 27 and scared as a cat, always in near crippling pain, she got brave and she had her right hip done. I've never seen such a transformation in my life, in a very short time. I think the fact that she is young played a big part(thats just my opinion, but probably holds much truth), but within a week, she was getting out, going to the ball games, etc.. She'd just grab her walker(which she didn't have long, maybe a few weeks, if that)..and she was on her way. PAIN FREE! I witnessed it first hand. I know and believe theres more and more help for younger people today then ever. Its truly a matter of searching and finding a surgeon you're comfortable with.

From what you've written, you're on the right path, no doubt. As am I, you see I have OA(osteo arthritis), and its now claimed my left hip, of which I'm having a left THR on Monday the 16th... and yes, I'm using the same surgeon that did our daughters. I'm so fortunate I've seen his work first hand, when he took our daughter by the hand and helped her not only walk, but enjoy life again, like she hadn't in many years, and in a few weeks, I'll start that same journey, and when your time is right, you will too, I'm sure. I wish you well on your journey.
 
Thanks for sharing Jamie @DGrant. I love to hear of people in similar age brackets having success. I know it's great to hear everyone is doing well but it just means a bit more when someone is in similar circumstances.

I am pretty much in a constant flare, not a day without pain but I too have had extreme bouts of pain and flare in my condition. I went off medication coming up on 6 years ago due to an ex-partner suggesting the natural route of treating my condition. I too was unable to get out of bed and I could barely walk.
My hips were the worst and I have memories of being stuck half way between my doorway and my bed in the most excruciating pain I have ever been in, unable to move because of the pain in my hips and the inability to lift my leg to walk due to the pain. So no matter the fact the medication has controlled my symptoms I will NEVER forget that pain and I know there is severe damage in my hips.

I am glad your daughter has done so well and gives me hope for achieving a similar result.

I have gone back and forward a few times since seeing the surgeon but I think I have come to the decision that I would like to have steroid injections (which includes a local) in my hips and see the impact that has, and if it's a positive impact then I want to go ahead with the surgery and book in 12 months from now. As my surgeon said, if it gets closer and I'm not ready, I can push the date forward.

Anyway, I'm exhausted and expect a busy day at work tomorrow so better get to sleep.

Wishing you well on your upcoming surgery Jamie




Candice
 
Update- going to see my physio therapist in 2 days. He will be the first medical practitioner I have seen since seeing the surgeon and he was the one who recommended the particular surgeon I went to (and loved). So it will be interesting to see what he says.
I honestly don't think I can deal with him telling me not to have my hip done. I know that most of my other treating practitioners will not be for it but if he isn't I don't know what I'll do.
I've pretty much decided to book in for November 2016 (financially seems the right time) and once I decide on something I stick with it. So if he doesn't agree with me I don't know what I'll do. Does it seem silly to need his approval? He's been treating me for the last 6 of 16 years with this condition so he knows me well.

Hoping it goes well. I'll keep you up to date with progress.


Candice
 
Hi Candice,

I hope your physio appointment goes well. I understand your feelings of wanting him to approve of your decision...especially as long as you've been seeing him. I think, in the end, you'll feel better doing exactly what is right for you, and no one else. So I think you're doing the right thing. You've done your homework and this feels right. I wish you well!
 
Thanks @MI Chickie. I had my physio appointment last night and it went well. My physio was supportive of my decision to have THR but also explained some more things for me.

He explained if I have an anterior approach this time I am likely to need a posterior in the future. I have issues with scarring (previous surgeries at birth have left significant hard scarring so my body is not a good scarer lol) so the incision site will likely to scar a lot and taking out the first replacement to put in new ones will need more room too see into the joint space. This doesn't change my mind, only gives me a clearer picture for the future.

He said that the sooner I get it the better honestly. If I won the lottery and work wasn't an issue I should do it tomorrow. So this hit home for me that I should make it a bit more of a priority and get it over with and move on with my life!

He also said that rehab would be more for someone that has someone at home they are primary carer for or if my house had a lot of stairs (which it doesn't). He also said that my health insurance covers home visits for PT and if I go to rehab (which would be another week post surgery) I would become ineligible for the 6-8 weeks of home visits and PT.

Also recommended getting both hips done within the minimum time frame in between that my surgeon will do it. He said that with all of my other joints affected by my RA, my left hip will likely soon deteriorate with the change in gait so getting them both done will likely prevent many other issues.

He showed me where they cut the muscle in an anterior approach and said he is confident in a quick recovery for me and that I could be back to work in 4 weeks. He has had other patients driving in 2 weeks and back to work in 4 weeks and even had a marathon runner back running marathons 3 months following BTHR.

So with some frustration and confusion (more new information to digest) on what to do I spoke to Hubby and we decided that house savings can wait and I will book in for the next available date.

When I saw my surgeon the next available date was June/July so I am planning for this date now. We are lucky to be in the position that we are that we don't pay rent or bills as Hubby gets a house as part of his job (farm manager) so it might be the right time to do it now before we get a mortgage instead of waiting the other way around like we planned.

So that's where I'm at. BTHR planned at 29 years old. But I'm honestly so excited and ready for it. I don't limp, I can still work and drive and get around but I don't want my life to get to the point where I am miserable, depressed and my marriage in shambles before I wait to get surgery done. I am in the prime of my life and I want to enjoy it.


Candice. Rheumatoid Arthritis. Diagn.1999 at 12 yo. Live in Victoria, Australia. Planning to book BTHR July/Aug 2016. :)
 
I'm glad your appointment went so well!! It seems that you got loads of information and can now look forward armed with good info and support! I'm very happy for you! :yes!:
 
@dandy candi It sounds to me like you have received good advice and made a well thought out decision. I am wishing you all the best!
 
So just thought I'd do a bit of an update. I am currently working casually about 30 hours a week. A position had come up at work for a part time role and I applied for it (same role, just part time).
I have only started this job 8 months ago and have honestly been struggling a lot. Its at the registration and licensing office. I honestly didn't think it would be that complicated but it's a really complex job with lots of information, fast pace, customers staring at you waiting for an answer and small mistakes potentially costing hundreds of dollars to either the customer it company. As well as this, I do driving tests and have had one driving instructor yelling at me and contesting multiple results (my boss has no issue with my drive testing and this instructor really has no say in my job) - he comes in the test but I work to a criteria and if it's not met then the person fails. It's not personal but I can make mistakes- I'm human. So this is causing me anxiety having to face potential confrontation on a daily basis when I'm trying to do my job. (I do not like confrontation).
So I found out today that I didn't get the part time role and you know what? I was actually RELIEVED!
I think it's a sign that it's time to get my hips done. My hours will likely drop down to around 15 or so a week but I should be able to save enough to have my surgery and save enough to pay my bills for the 3 months out of work -AND then I can find a less stressful job.
So not getting a job is actually a blessing in disguise for me and has been a sign for me to book the surgery.
Ahhhh- that's such a relief to get that out there.
Doesn't the universe (I'm not religious) work in weird ways???


Candice. Rheumatoid Arthritis. Diagn.1999 at 12 yo. Live in Victoria, Australia. Planning to book THR July 2016. :)
 
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