THR Me2 and Recovery

So sorry you are still suffering from back issues! Please let us know how the injection goes. I had several spinal injections. The first one worked. The following 2 did nothing - but that was because the issue was my bad left hip, not my back. This is all trial and error. Just keep trying - you will find a solution.
 
@Me2, so sorry about your continued pain. Your pain specialist saw with ultrasound evidence of gluteal tendinopathy and a partial tear. Those situations would certainly cause pain. Immediately after my THR I had partial tears of my gluteus medius and minimus tendons that caused hip pain and an inability to balance at all on my surgical leg, which resulted in a severe limp. The tears never got better, and I had surgical repairs done 15 months after my THR.

Before the tears were discovered, I had MRIs of my spine that showed no problem, and a sacroiliac injection that did not make my hip pain any better at all.

If you do have a tear, you might want to take it really easy for awhile and do your best not to stress your hip, to see if it can heal. Good luck finding the problem and getting effective treatment.
 
@Krista I remember your having tears repaired . . . how are you doing now? And how was recovery? I'll go back and look at that thread and see your updates. This is same pain that has plagued me since even before my right hip replacement. My most recent MRI of lumbar spine shows some craziness in my opinion but the docs say probably not so bad.
 
@Me2, you can check out my recovery thread, linked below. It's been a year and a half, and I am much better than before the operation. I do not have 100% strength in the surgical leg, but it is plenty good enough, maybe 90%. I don't need walking aids for my hip, but use them when outside anyway because of my back and the knee on my other leg! I can balance on the surgical leg alone, which I could not do at all before the surgery. I still have some pain in the area, but it's hard for me to tease out which pain comes from what exactly because I have all kinds of aches and pains all over. My body, with osteoarthritis and osteoporosis, and various sore muscles/tendons/etc, is giving me a hard time. I am sure I have multiple things going on causing my Greater Trochanteric Pain Syndrome. But one thing that it is NOT due to is torn gluteus tendons, like before.

The MRI of my hip 6 months post-THR showed many fatty inclusions throughout my gluteus medius muscle, indicating atrophy from not being used. It looked completely different from the gluteus medius on my other hip. I wonder what it looks like now! It certainly gets used now. I average about 8,500 steps a day, sometimes many more! Hope you get answers.
 
@Krista, most wonderful to hear that you did do so well from repairing the gluteus medius/minimus tears! My head just cannot wrap around that I have to hurt this bad still! I'm hopeful hearing from you that maybe maybe I can get to the source of this and be healthy and pain free for at least a little bit--hopefully alot! Now that I know there is some tearing in those tendons, I can at least work on it. The new pain specialist could see the tears with ultrasound but I'm seeing that often the tears can't be seen on images---would any additional be seen on a MRI?

I'm scheduled for PT right now with a therapist who supposedly is an "expert" at getting me to use this area -- but your words reminded me of what this new pain specialist said in that he said I was not using the gluteus muscles and its from the lack of use that I'm getting so much pain and feel such weakness in this area. But, if its torn, how can my body use it pain free. Walking and walking upstairs/up hill hurts but it hurts most when sitting and also when laying down/shifting position. When I had the PRP injection and felt good after the first month til about six months was it healed and re-torn? How did you find a doctor willing to do the repair work or at least talk about if it can be fixed? I'm finding medical articles online that this surgery can be done arthroscopically with very good success but my regular pain doctor didn't seem to feel that surgery was an option as not at all successful.

I can't remember from your thread but did they see your bursa there and was anything done with that surgically?

I do remember you saying that you had a hard time getting them to do an MRI and needed to have a "MARS"? MRI? I want to know what to ask for. I am so hopeful of this PT working but want to at least know my options. I have to know I have SOME option. I may opt for another try at PRP but, of course, that's out of pocket, not covered by insurance. If it would work permanently, I definitely like that idea much better!
 
@Me2, I don't know if anything additional would be seen in an MRI image than from an ultrasound. The fact that a tear or tears WERE seen on ultrasound tells a significant story. I spent a lot of time looking at my MARS MRI images, and it was clear that some of the muscles were atrophied. My orthopedist saw the tear on the gluteus medius in the images, although I couldn't see it. When he went in surgically, with an open incision (not minimally invasive), he also found the gluteus minimus tear.

I discovered my second surgeon in a very fortuitous way. I had posted about my problem in a different forum, and a woman suggested that perhaps this was my problem. I researched the anatomy of which muscles do which functions, and it certainly seemed to fit. I then did a google search for something like "gluteus medius tendon repair surgeon", and the first result to pop up was a doctor with an orthopedic practice very near where I live! I read his extensive web page, which includes papers he has written and research he has done. He has pioneered minimally invasive surgical techniques for this kind of repair. You can even see video of him performing it. Here is the link to that page on his site, although there is lots of other info on other pages, too. http://www.benjamindombmd.com/gluteus-medius-tears.html. I know of a couple other surgeons who are experienced and highly regarded in this kind of surgery, but not anywhere near your area. Perhaps my doctor's office could refer you to a surgeon in your area.

I don't know where your orthopedist got the idea that this surgery is not usually successful, as my surgeon's results would refute this. He has a very conservative protocol for recovery, with no physical therapy for at least the first 6 - 8 weeks, depending on the individual. You must wear a brace for those first 6 - 8 weeks and do only 20 pound weight-bearing. This all allows for the best possible result in healing. Then he has a gradual program of PT that does not move forward unless you meet the requirements of no pain or increased disability.

At the same time that the tendon repair was done, he removed the trochanteric bursa and smoothed out the greater trochanter, since I also had ischiofemoral impingement. I had felt some catching before the surgery, and none afterwards. Unlike you, I didn't have much pain when just sitting and not moving around, although if I pressed on the areas, I would feel pain.

You can google MARS MRI for info. The "metal artifact reduction sequence (MARS)" reduces the distortion in the images caused by the metal parts of the implants. Looking at my images, there is still distortion in the area immediately around the implants, but the rest of the image was very clear.

Keep on looking for professionals who can help you. They are out there!
 
@Krista Thank you so much for the HOPE. It means so much to me.

Looking at his website, and he sounds fabulous! Really sounds possible --- I'm going to try to contact him to see if he knows anyone in Pittsburgh. Its funny --- the doctor I went to for the ultrasound mentioned that the only doctor he'd trust to do this type of surgery was a friend of his in Chicago -- wonder what the chances are?
 
You are welcome, @Me2! That would be something if it were my surgeon who yours was referring to! I hope he can give you a name in your area. I think he does consults by mail after looking at any imaging/testing you have had done, so you might want to ask about that, too. Take good care.
 
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So, I saw the Pittsburgh arthroscopic hip surgeon, supposedly the best of the best. He ordered a hip MRI -- finally I got one. Awaiting the results on that. I cancelled the lumbar spine injection but now have rescheduled. I wanted to hear what arthroscopic hip surgeon had to say and I had some work difficulties keeping the appointment. The hip guy said yes, problems with hip but I would have better chances of successful hip surgery, if I decided to go that route, if back was fixed if it needs it first. So the injection at L4-L5 is rescheduled for this week. So confusing as to steps to take . . . and again I'm learning patience. But, also scheduled some PT appointments to see if that will help keep things under control. Looking forward to hearing from hip guy.
 
Best wishes for good results from injection...:)
 
@Me2 Hi Sheryl, just saw this.... Hope your lumbar injection and PT helps!
I go back to work next week after Memorial Day. Not looking forward to it.....
I liked not having to worry about a schedule and getting things done.
Best!
 
@MajorHeidi Back to work already! Wow, that time flew ... at least from this side. All went very well hopefully.

Yes!!!!!!!.....the injection though incredibly painful to get ... I've had a couple lumbar injections and none of them hurt at all so I was totally not prepared for it to hurt like the dickens but WOW! After I go over the nausea, I felt absolutely nothing!!! No back, no hip, no groin pain. I could walk, move, felt straight! I even cut some grass as he told me to give it a good workout. I swam way over my usual time this morning and it was great. Walked into PT tonight, and Krissy even noted that I was walking really well as soon as I walked in! I think she was a little disappointed it wasn't totally her miracle work so she endlessly tortured me. Not really, but the exercises she had me do really aggravated my everything----- ankle to knee to groin to hip...think she was trying to kill me! No, I do trust her. BUT or AND, I'll do anything to feel like I felt last evening.

Now, I know the pain specialist said the injection was diagnostic. Only what happens the first hour or so means anything so that was fantastic. He said he does put in some steriod (I think) that would help it feel better but no way of knowing a day, two days, a week, a month or forever. I'll take it. I had no idea how much it hurt til it didn't.
 
Hi me2. hope you are continuing to get good relief from the injection. I have had several steroid injections in my low back but none since last April. Since I got my left hip replaced the back pain is not as bad.
I have a question, I see you got the cuff repair, decompression and bicep tenotomy done. I am needing this in my right shoulder but putting off because I have such good use and strength. Just wondering how it was. Thanks hun!!
 
FOUR YEARS AGO TODAY! Wow! It is really hard to believe. I've gone back and reread and have truly forgotten how I felt before and after the right hip surgery. So glad that I did the THR but so wish it had solved my right side problems like it did the left.

So, unfortunately, still same old back problems. I made some steady improvements after that May lumbar injections. We decided to do another to see if we could get another boost as some of the effects were fading. What a mistake. I had what the pain doctor called a steriod flare. It was truly awful! A good first hour or two but then horrible pain from neck to bum very similar to what I remember from labor with my posterior approach baby. About three-four days of flu like aches and fever and then "just" fever for 3-4 weeks --- 103 type fever off and on.
And, couldn't do any of my PT during that time so pretty much back to where I was last early Spring. I did see a orthopedic surgeon who specialized in arthroscopic hip repair -- The MRI does show quite a bit of tearing in the gluteous something but so deep and extensive that arthroscopic not an option and open not suggested because damage done in surgery and risk of infection with replacement. AND he felt my problem is more likely that most of my lumbar part of spine is so bad. So, making some appointments with spine doctors. First one I saw said only solution would be to fuse the whole thing and would not suggest that BUT he suggested making "life style changes" depending on whether I wanted to be walking for five or ten years. The pain doctor felt that a foraminotomy was what would help me. I was so shocked by his prognosis I totally forgot to ask about that solution. I have two more November 1 and November 7. So, we'll see what they say.

Actually, the back and walking thing has taken a back seat as I have a little spot of skin cancer on my nose that I have to have removed on November 9 with a Moh's surgery. They say its almost 95% cure rate and not to worry but, of course, I worry. I worried about getting hips replaced too young as it would only last 15 or so years. Then I worried about shoulder replacement too young as it would only last 10 or so years. Then, I worried about what to do with my back if I'm only going to be walking 5-10 years. Hmm, now I worry about the bit "C" word! Hopefully I'll get the chance to wear out all my bionic parts!
 
Hi Sheryl @Me2 ,
I was so happy to read a new post on your thread. This is the first time I'm posting on your thread, but I've been following it up with great interest. When I was in the pre-op stage and really had terrible pre-op blues (yes, that does exist), your recovery reports gave me encouragement. I'm sorry you are still in pain, especially since you did so well during your first hip recovery in 2014 and you have such a great sense of humour that cheers everybody up. You also managed so well with working again in such an early stage - you work with young children, don't you. How is work for you today?
Another interesting aspect you addressed was being sad about the loss of natural parts of your body (because you were asleep when it happened the first time around). Well, I understand that. Everybody has some irrational Feelings. We are human. Actually I didn't experience that sadness. I was asleep, too, although I only had spinal and sedation. But I fall asleep so easily that even light sedation sends me to sleep. I slept through the entire surgery procedure and didn't hear a thing (the anaesthesist had warned me that it would be loud, but even that didn't wake me up).

Meanwhile I've got 3 spare parts in my body (but not my right hip, that's still ok). I had my lenses in my eyes replaced because I had cataract. The positive side effect is it cured my shortsightedness - driving without glasses - what a feeling. But I'm not sad about having spareparts in my body, strangly enough. Is it because I'm too active with work, exercise, hobbies, etc.? Do you think the sadness could come with a delay (timelag) one day when I'm less busy.
I hope you and your doctors will find a solution to your back or your glute muscle issues, or whatever is the issues are - to improve your quality of life. You definitely deserve that after all the operations and the hassle. Best - Constanze
 
@Me2 hi Sheryl, oh gees, so sorry to hear about your back, and the “C”, I don’t know if you remember me, but we were from the same cohort 4 years ago, you were such a great inspiration, I recall we both were more aggressive in our PT. I feel so bad for you! We always hope that these huge surgeries give the best results. I had to do my other hip last month. I’ll be thinking about you! My new recovery thread is here
https://bonesmart.org/forum/threads/riding-to-the-other-side.50360/
 
@Me2 Sheryl! Good to hear from you.
I am sorry to hear of your skin cancer; a friend of mine had mohs surgery recently and it went very well.
I hope yours will, too.
And, I hope you get a resolution to your back issue. Good golly....
Have you been able to do any horseback riding?
 
@Lmflora yes, I do remember you. I still consider my hip recoveries a great success in my life --- just looking at them as stepping stones to get back to rather than the leap to health that I thought it was going to be......and I've learned patience along the journey. So hope your second surgery gets you to where you want to be.

@MajorHeidi yes, its so good to hear from you. Its a bit scary when skin cancer seems to be a little blip but with the reassurance I've received from the dermatologist's p.a. and nurse, their record and reviews, and the online information available on Moh's surgery .... plus the number of people who have said, yes, I've had that or know someone who did . . . I'm doing well at keeping this too in perspective of something I've got to get done and hope for the best. At least I don't have to worry about talking them into staying awake since "everyone" does this with just a local anesthesia. I did take the Friday off for the surgery, and am telling my little ones that I'll have a super big bandage on my nose for a couple of days.

My back appointments were supposed to be just after I had Mohs surgery but the Mohs surgery was rescheduled ten days later by the surgeon (that caused me a meltdown) so now will be right before. I have appointments with my surgeon who did the SI fusion and who kept insisting I was all better on November 1 and a new young female orthopaedic DO who has some really exciting information on her website. We'll see what happens and what they say

I have been able to do some horseback riding. I depend on my son to help me saddle up since so heavy and get to go out once a month or so. Never enough time. He got a new baby horse that is fun to do the ground work with.

I assume you are back to working . . . second hip almost forgotten?
 
@Me2 Sheryl, Nah.... The second hip is not yet forgotten. I still have electrical shocks at random times and pins/needles when i apply pressure to the area below the incision down to about a couple inches above the knee. I had this for several months on the first hip, and then it went away; I just don't remember how many months it took. I am hoping this will go away!

Yes, I am back at work (only got 8 weeks off this time; first one got 12 weeks). I took full advantage of the benefit, because 'Why not'?

The baby horse sounds like a neat thing!
Take care, and keep us posted.
 
Dear Sheryl, (@Me2 )
Very nice that you've been able to do some horse riding. And the baby horse sounds fun.

The shooting at the Synagoge in Pitsburgh got into the German news, and I'm so sorry. I hope you're safe. Take care!
Constanze
 

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