Josephine, your last post really hit the target for me, pain versus gain. I was extremely down on myself after therapy yesterday because I refused to let the therapist bend my leg. That was the first time I had told them No. I have tried my best to do everything they had asked up until then. I HAVE made progress with their help over the last 6 weeks, I am 9 weeks PO today. I can walk without limping, for which I am grateful; I can go up and down stairs in a normal manner, again grateful. I have moved into the gym an am currently doing leg curls, forward and backward, with 25 pound weights 30 times each way; I have moved up to 10 minutes on a semi-recumbent bike with the seat set at 5. With all these signs of improvement, I have only(?) gained 15* of bend. I'm good to 110*. I don't know what my OS is going to expect next Wednesday, this is another one of those things they don't tell us up front. However, logic tells me that if 15* is all I've gotten over 6 weeks I am not going to get very much in 6 days. I am not crying here, I am better off than many at this point, but in terms of what I get from their bending and my pain, I really do not see the justification. I am very interested in how the lady does after her recent 'manipulation' as I think that is where I am headed. In an earlier post, I said I think based on my earlier surgery, there will be some gains after PT is over. I don't how much. I know that more ROM would be BETTER, but I can do pretty much do what I need to do now. This is a mental battle that I am really trying to fight but all I can see at this point is the pain vs gain; and I can't win that one on my own. Any help? Anyone?